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If you have a question about the Experimenting with Sensor Fusion competition, you can ask it here.

rscasny — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 15:54:50 GMT

If you have a question about the Experimenting with Sensor Fusion competition, you can ask it here.

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javagoza — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 11:30:44 GMT

Thanks for all your effort. None of us should work on weekends or break time.

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cstanton — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 11:23:13 GMT

The weekend wasn't great for site issues, unfortunately, I started today with a swathe of messages of the server admin team working over the weekend to get the server back online and they're taking it up with the website vendor today.

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cstanton — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 11:22:22 GMT

Sanitizing personally identifiable information from content is a good habit to get into 🙂

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rscasny — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:22:54 GMT

Jan,

Thanks for doing that.

Randall

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Jan Cumps — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:16:23 GMT

I submitted a suggestion in the feedback area: suggestion: moderation queue - warn when saving as draft

It could allow a writer to keep on writing. And to either let them remove the flagged content, or let the review team decide, when it's time to publish.

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rscasny — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:10:14 GMT

I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I know our development team is working on it. Let me ask about it tomorrow and see what the pathway to resolving them is. I open open to extending this challenge by several weeks to make up for lost time.

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Jan Cumps — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 10:25:21 GMT

It happened to me today, under these circumstances:

I showed code snippet from GITHUB, where a normal practice is to sign your code and commits with an email address.

The flag message referred to that email address as reason for review.

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javagoza — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 10:51:18 GMT

I am finding it very difficult to participate in this challenge due to platform issues. I have had to modify the blogs several times because the new version of Verint treats them as SPAM for having too many Links. I can no longer edit the blogs with either Edge or Chrome because the editor crashes with the 'latest versions of Edge and Chrome. I have installed Firefox but it also fails with code widgets.
At the moment I have managed to publish two blogs and I have a third inaccessible marked as SPAM before even publishing it, marked as SPAM when including the tags and saving as draft.
I try to take advantage of free time to work on the project but blogging is proving to be quite a frustrating experience.

For the rest, thank you very much to the whole team of element14, the development kit is fascinating and I hope to continue telling my experiences with it.

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saadtiwana_int — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:33:49 GMT

I think the issue is that the usual Vitis Acceleration flow requires a linux kernel, which in case of Zynq can run on the hard ARM processors. In case of Spartan theoretically one can have Linux running on the microblaze, but then the microblaze is not based on ARM, so I would think a lot of the libraries used to compile the Xilinx XRT would need to be compiled for microblaze, and so on. If Xilinx is not supporting Vitis Vision Library on the Spartan, then that means it's a lot of work to do all of that 🙂.

On the other hand, IPs compiled using HLS should still work, as those do not require XRT, and plus you also have all the video IPs available from Xilinx for free in Vivado, which enable building fairly complex video designs (from personal experience). I have been very tempted to participate in this contest, since I have done fair bit of work with video processing on the Xilinx FPGAs (mostly on Zynq), however I am already busy with a roadtest, and not sure what other commitments the next 2 months will bring.

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saadtiwana_int — Fri, 30 Sep 2022 02:41:49 GMT

That would make sense because the Spartan-7 does not have a hard Ethernet core (unlike Zynq series, for example), and the soft Ethernet cores are not supplied for free by Xilinx. If you're not goint to use Ethernet in your project, then it's not an issues. If you are, then the 120 days trial license could cover the project duration fine. But i DO understand the frustration with limited-time trial licenses 🙂. Especially since the (paid) IP core licenses are too expensive for individual/hobbyist use.

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surbhika — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:39:43 GMT

Hi scottiebabe ,,it's actually a bit daunting at first to work around xilinx tools (they are SO MANY).

You can have a look at this github repository to help you work around that: https://github.com/Xilinx/Vitis-Tutorials There are whole range of tutorials which should get you started.

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javagoza — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 21:31:04 GMT

It seems that there are some trial licenses and specifically there is a 120-day trial license for the AXI 1G/2.5G Ethernet Subsystem

With this design it is the only IP core that reports license problems.

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javagoza — Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:51:58 GMT

While trying out one of the examples designs that come with Vivado for the SP701 board, I ran into a licensing issue. What licenses are supplied with the kit?

[Common 17-69] Command failed: This design contains one or more cells for which bitstream generation is not permitted: mb_preset_i/axi_ethernet_0/inst/mac/inst/tri_mode_ethernet_mac_i/bd_b764_mac_0_core () If a new IP Core license was added, in order for the new license to be picked up, the current netlist needs to be updated by resetting and re-generating the IP output products before bitstream generation.

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Jan Cumps — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 18:25:13 GMT

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using openCV, either from Vitis HLS or perhaps going to Petalinux, although it's not strictly necessary. I have had bad experiences with Petalinux this year because my internet connection is very bad and the generation of images almost always fails.

I haven't found examples of openCV using the SP701 or with the Spartan-7 FPGA so I'm still in doubt.

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I have the openCV hardware accelerators working on a Zynq. In that case, the openCV (the HW accelerated library is actually called Vitis Vision) calls are implemented inside the FPGA (hardware) instead of in the ARM processor (software).

this comes with warnings: you have to select what functions to implement. There's no room for a rich set.
It only makes sense for processes that

take a lot of processor ticks/time,
the particular imaging logic can be paralellised, and
are stream-in -> stream-out.

One example is the resize function. On a Zynq, the speed went from 1s when the resize function was implemented in software (similar to Pi, BB speed) to 200 ms when the openCV resize function was implemented in fabric.

I think it doesn't work on Spartan-7:

Vitis Vision library is designed to work with Zynq, Zynq Ultrascale+, VCK190, and Alveo™ FPGAs. The library has been verified on zcu102, zcu104, vck190, U50, and U200 boards.

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scottiebabe — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 17:15:32 GMT

I had the same frustrating issues with MS Word, resizing the images and then not copy pasting into the editor. I manage the WordPress installation on a LAMP server I rent. But I believe the a free account on wordpress.com would likely behave the same. I'm not suggesting its perfect but I prefer it over the E14 editor :) Then I just select all of the blog preview and copy paste into the e14 editor.

As you suggest there is still some time needed to add the e14 final touches like product links and source code highlighting.

Your blogs are always wonderfully written and formatted and interesting to read, keep it up:)

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cstanton — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 17:04:59 GMT

My instinct is that starting a Image processing project from scratch is a huge undertaking.

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Agreed :D

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javagoza — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 16:36:30 GMT

Thanks for commenting on Wordpress. Do you use an online service or have you installed a local instance? Until now I had tried editing the document in MS Word, in Word 365, in Google docs but with all of them I had problems with the resolution of the images or with tables when copying.
I like that blogs use all the widgets that element14 offers, such as links to products, the source code widget, internal links to other pages. It's not easy for me to write blogs, first because of the language and second because I don't have the ability to express myself, so I often rearrange the paragraphs or leave them overnight to see if they can be read during the day :P visualizing it already in element14 helps me review them.

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scottiebabe — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 16:16:04 GMT

WOW! Your projects are always so interesting and ambitious!

Re Editing: I draft my content in wordpress then just copy paste the blog preview into the editor. It works well for text and images and then add any e14 specific items. The thought of losing blog text scares me too, so I draft in wordpress.

I have not thought of a project yet as I don't know what is realistically possible.

Thanks for sharing your ideas on this topic, it gives me some sense of what is possible!

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scottiebabe — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 16:04:24 GMT

Her last project definitely puts her in the FPGA expert class :)

My instinct is that starting a Image processing project from scratch is a huge undertaking.

It is just a thought.

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javagoza — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 15:21:41 GMT

I would like to apply, I am still in the analysis phase of what possibilities I have to do something decent in two months. I am very scared by the instability of the element14 website on weekends when I can spend some time. The last three weekends I have tried to work on a blog but I have finally had to leave it.

The application I am working on is water leak monitoring by merging the data of changes detected by processing the images taken from mechanical water meters and the IMU attached to the pipe.

My idea would be to first make a bare metal prototype using a soft-core processor, preferably MicroBlaze, so as not to include another development environment like Keil in the equation.

I would then go on to accelerate up some part of the image processing using Vitis HLS.

The application I'm thinking of would gain a lot from using openCV, either from Vitis HLS or perhaps going to Petalinux, although it's not strictly necessary. I have had bad experiences with Petalinux this year because my internet connection is very bad and the generation of images almost always fails.

I haven't found examples of openCV using the SP701 or with the Spartan-7 FPGA so I'm still in doubt.

As a last phase, it would be to use TinyML to make a model that can predict leaks based on that information.

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cstanton — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 15:13:00 GMT

[quote userid="395267" url="~/challenges-projects/design-challenges/experimenting-with-sensor-fusion/f/forum/51651/if-you-have-a-question-about-the-experimenting-with-sensor-fusion-competition-you-can-ask-it-here/200467#200467"]Perhaps an E14 FPGA expert can be coerced to participate as a Mentor and develop a basic starting point project with a swag kit :) [/quote]

surbhika comes to mind...

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scottiebabe — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 14:19:56 GMT

I think this is a very exciting and interesting "experimenting with" topic!

What personal attracts me to the event is a chance to experiment with Xilinx's High-Level Synthesis tools: https://www.xilinx.com/video/hardware/getting-started-vivado-high-level-synthesis.html

What detracts me from applying is the amount of work it would take me personally to get the FPGA board and sensor setup to point to even start experimenting with HLS.

General Questions:

Are there sample projects that an experimenter can build on?

Perhaps an E14 FPGA expert can be coerced to participate as a Mentor and develop a basic starting point project with a swag kit :)

If you are intending to apply, do you to intend to try and implement signal processing routines in hardware versus on a soft-core processor?