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Upcycling a Vintage Microphone into an Emergency Radio System -- Episode 663

Clem attempts to create an audio transmission system using two old microphones, exploring the process of converting audio into a digital signal via pulse-width modulation (PWM). He encounters difficulties in getting the analogue system to function properly, detailing the use of low-pass filters, amplifiers, and comparator circuits to modulate audio onto a carrier frequency. Clem shares his understanding of the theory behind the project but admits that the system doesn't quite work as planned.

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We’ve all been there—starting out in electronics, buying a bunch of random parts that seem useful at the time, and then letting them gather dust in a drawer somewhere. For Clem, this collection of forgotten RF modules was no different. After narrowly avoiding the impact of a major flood in his area, he wondered if he could create an emergency communication system with the spare parts from his electronics stash. However, Clem faced a few challenges—not only was he missing some essential components, but he was also diving headfirst into an area he had little experience with: analogue electronics. But hey, that's all part of the fun, right?

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A DIY Approach: Building From Scratch

Instead of spending hours researching the perfect setup, Clem did what many of us do: he jumped straight into the project, soldering things together with whatever he had on hand. His base? A retro 1980s microphone and speaker combo, likely used in an old taxi radio system. The original housing wasn’t quite big enough to hold all the necessary components, so Clem 3D-printed an extension ring, using some Proto-pasta conductive PLA he’d received from the element14 community staff for review. This innovative material kept the housing both functional and shielded from interference.

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The Antenna Hack

For the antenna, Clem went with the tried-and-true method of using 1.6mm thick tinned copper wire, which he straightened by twisting it in a drill. Classic! To keep things neat, he 3D-printed custom inserts for BNC connectors, ensuring that the antennas were well-isolated from the housing walls. While PLA didn’t quite cut it for this application, MAYER MAKES Engineering Resin was the perfect fit. It had the right tolerances and strength to replace the old nylon inserts, which couldn’t accommodate the new, thicker antenna wires.

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First Test Run: Mixed Results

The first test was promising but not perfect. When Clem pressed the button, the unit did send a signal—but it wasn’t quite the sine wave he expected. Instead, it looked more like a digital signal. Curious but not discouraged, he built a second unit, hoping to establish a clear link between the two. And yes, there was a connection! However, instead of the sound he hoped for, the speakers emitted only a faint crackling noise.

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Diagnosing the Problem

Armed with a signal generator, Clem injected a known frequency into the transmitter to see how the receiver would react. The result? Success! The devices did indeed communicate with one another, and the signals changed based on the input. The catch? The signals weren’t audio; they were digital pulses—essentially the duty cycle of the input signal being transmitted and received.

That’s when Clem had a light-bulb moment: these RF modules communicate only in digital signals, meaning they transmit data as discrete on/off pulses. To get audio working, Clem would need to encode, transmit, and then decode the audio into a digital format. He sketched out a schematic that combined a known PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) carrier signal with an amplified microphone input. This method would transform the sound into a digital signal that could then be sent over the RF modules.

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Is It Worth It?

At this point, Clem had to ask himself: should he continue down this path? The antennas, made to full wavelength, were designed for maximum reception, but the signal range was limited to just a few meters. Plus, 433 MHz RF modules, once groundbreaking, have now been overtaken by cheaper and more efficient options like WiFi modules, which can transmit far more data over greater distances with much better reliability.

So Clem turns to the community for advice: Should he stick with the digital route, using these old RF modules to transmit voice, or go fully analogue and build a proper ham radio-style sender and receiver system? The analogue route could offer more authenticity and simplicity, but digital opens up interesting possibilities. Or perhaps, should he abandon both and pivot to using modern WiFi technology for a more robust solution?

Clem’s project is at a crossroads, and he’s keen to hear your thoughts! Would you pursue the digital RF modules, embrace the challenge of analogue radio, or leap into WiFi for a more reliable emergency communication system? Let him know your ideas and suggestions!

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Product Name Manufacturer Quantity Buy Kit
MC7805CTG onsemi 2 Buy Now
MCP602 Microchip 2 Buy Now
tinned copper wire MULTICOMP PRO TCW16 500G Multicomp 1 Buy Now
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Microphone, Speaker 433mhz modules, amp module
Protopasta conductive PLA → thanks to the E14 community for providing it for review!
 

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 26 days ago +1
    Perhaps one issue with using this type of system as an emergency communication system is who is going to be actively listening at the far end to receive the transmission ? Another issue is that modern…
  • mayermakes
    mayermakes 25 days ago in reply to beacon_dave +1
    thats why my attention was drawn to these modules for the pure reason, that i just had them laying around for ages. but also an analog transmission might just be picked up as interference and could at…
  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 2 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    I get the same results with a new receiver module and the second version of the receiver module.  The low pass filter gets rid of the squeal but no audio comes through - even with a LM386 amplifier.  Time to let this go and move on.

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    kmikemoo 2 days ago in reply to beacon_dave

    beacon_dave  Interesting question.  Because the chassis is conductive PLA, I would assume that it serves as the ground plane.  I would have gone for 1/4λ on the radiator, but that would have been out of convention initially.  I'm not graceful, so those wavelength antennas wouldn't have survived very long anyway.  In my experimenting, I'm using helical antennas and tuning them with my NanoVNA.

    As to range... it's UHF; short range communication.  BUT... easier to make some really awesome antennas due to the shorter wavelengths.  These modules are supposed to put out up to 10mW when powered with 12VDC.  With a good antenna, you might get out 1/4 mile or so.  I can confirm that with 5VDC and a helical antenna, you can make it about 75 feet in an open parking lot.

    Now that I've reread what I wrote... these modules would make TERRIBLE walkie-talkies.  BUT... they might be just the thing for classroom Morse Code practice sessions.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 2 days ago in reply to mayermakes

    mayermakes  Joy  Wait!  Do you mean to say that people post stuff on the internet that isn't true?!  Joy
    At the time I made the recommendation, this experiment was very far down on the project list.  I was hoping that you would try it out. Laughing
    I also understood that there is a risk anytime you trust YouTube.  "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

    The project seemed plausible based on being able to add a single resistor to the transmitter module and have the signal picked up by a FM receiver.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vMOQsRgdf4  This was what I replicated this in The Frugal Fox.  It also works with a text to speech program.  I had hope that the transistor would add some slew and turn the digital into sudo-analog.
    In the video introduction, you mention being able to make yourself known in the case of a disaster or emergency.  At least we can confirm that we can make a beacon that can call for help and be used for radio location.

    To get these modules to work with a microphone, I assumed that the transmitter would need a preamplifier.  Alas, I don't have one of those.

    So I moved to the receiver.  The component that is supposed to have the least amount of modification to it just squeals. Angry  Now that I'm typing, maybe I should try another module.  I have enough of them since I used/modified 3 of the transmitters already. I also have a different version of these as well.

    To your antenna question:  You have a monopole.  Your chassis is the ground plane (other side of the antenna).  In amateur radio, the most typical monopole is the 1/4 wavelength ground plane.

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  • mayermakes
    mayermakes 3 days ago in reply to beacon_dave

    on the range I could detect clicks for at least 5 meters in distance, but did not try any further away as Iḿ limited by my workshops size and did not want to risk interference with any other devices in the area.

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  • mayermakes
    mayermakes 3 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

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    Happy I said it so diplomatically..but I think you got what I tried to say. and glad you confirmed my suspicion.
    Instead of a "it just works" the troubles are much more interestign to me and especially in "simple electronics Youtube" one has to be very cautious with the claims of videos as the are diplomatically speaking "often not reproduceable without a hidden element in the mix"-which can be another device or just simply editing.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 3 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    ...I do love Clem's microphone/speaker enclosure/packaging...

    Whilst on the enclosure, what are your thoughts on the antenna ground plane and the transmission range issue ?

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    kmikemoo 3 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    SO... in the spirit of Spring Clean!, I decided to "give it a go".  Yeah... it didn't go.  I retract my "Zafer Yildiz video" recommendation because I could not replicate what he did - not even close.  The system definitely transmits - as confirmed with my TinySA.  "What" it transmits is yet to be decoded.  The receiver is just a wreck.  I will try the low pass filter, but the little audio that I got one time was almost imperceivable and definitely not intelligible.

    beacon_dave mentioned Andreas Spiess.  Andreas figured out how to make this work after watching GreatScott try to do this same project.  GreatScott had the same results as mayermakes.  The outcome for the effort just isn't there.  The audio quality is poor - even at its best.
    I do love Clem's microphone/speaker enclosure/packaging.  It looks fantastic.

    I will play with this a bit more, but now I know that it's no where near as feasible as I once thought it to be.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 23 days ago in reply to mayermakes

    Initially, it looks like he's transmitting songs from his MP3 player.  At 4:28, he adds an element microphone.  True that the audio is not High Fidelity.  I also learned in my experimentation that certain frequencies of audio don't flow from transmitter to receiver.  My guess it that it has to do with harmonics, but I didn't research deeper into that theory.

    From what I've read, these modules all use Amplitude Shift Keying / On-Off Keying.  Your transmitter appears to use the MX-FS-03V transmitter module - which is the same one that Zafers uses.  I would call it a direct conversion transmitter.
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    I also have a few of these module lying around.  I supposed it can't hurt to give it a go. RelaxedThumbsup

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 24 days ago in reply to mayermakes

    If the authorities see as it already being covered by existing systems, then it may be worth asking what these systems actually are along with evidence of their effectiveness.

    In the ol' days, the authorities used to make use of local radio stations for broadcasting emergency announcements and were able to rely on the old analogue telephone systems which were powered from the exchange end, so by provisioning a few portable generators it kept the communications up. However, these days the modern communications infrastructure has changed and become more reliant on the the backup power being available at many locations.

    It may be possible to get funding for development and testing by other means. I recall there being funding opportunities in the past for disaster resilience and response type  projects, which often include the likes of resilient communication systems within the scope.

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    mayermakes 25 days ago in reply to beacon_dave

    there actualyl is a local group trying to implement an emergency lora mesh network, but I heard authorities refused funding as they see it already covered by the emergency sstems we already have (police ,Firefighters, etc.)

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