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Creating a bode plot from a simulation (or transfer function) is easy. But what if you want to create a bode plot for a REAL op-amp circuit or filter? One way is to measure a few parameters with an oscilloscope and function generator and then put those into a spreadsheet. Another is to use network analysis or frequency response analysis to do it automatically!

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 3 years ago in reply to jc2048 +3
    I think BE just had bad luck with the intern/murphy . The TL081 spice model doesn't include any capacitance on its input, let alone the parasitic capacitance on a breadboard. Green: No cf, Red: Cf…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 3 years ago in reply to baldengineer +1
    Here's a possible theory you might test. The TL081 has a pair of offset pins which you appear to have left unconnected. As well as using them to adjust the offset, which you wouldn't need to worry about…
  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to scottiebabe +1
    Cool! My plan is to solder a duplicate circuit to a perfboard (with generous solder) and do the sweep/plot again when I talk about how to automate the measurement in python (for those that don’t have an…
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  • rsjawale24
    rsjawale24 over 3 years ago

    I love the FRA analysis option present in the Keysight scopes. It's really easy to use it and give quick analysis of the DUT

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    rsjawale24 over 3 years ago

    I love the FRA analysis option present in the Keysight scopes. It's really easy to use it and give quick analysis of the DUT

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to rsjawale24

    Until FRA options came out, I was never happy with the function generators built into a scope, unless you could get the option for free. (I always thought the budget was better spent on either a standalone unit or just something else!)

    But having the integrated source AND measurement is a fantastic measurement package.

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