<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.element14.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><description>I would like to present a simple headphone amplifier based on PCC88 tubes. This construction was made a around a year ago. This amplifier gives a very fun from listening of music.
Main construction based on the White&amp;#39;s cathode follower. Here is sch..</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2018 10:52:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>jc2048</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting circuit and a nice project built around it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can sort of understand the operation, indirectly, by substituting FETs for the tubes. The top tube is a&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;follower and the bottom one an active pull-down, driven by feedback from the anode of the top tube via C4 on your schematic (C3 on mine) leading to a low output impedance (for a valve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;circuit without a matching transformer).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Couldn&amp;#39;t resist trying it in the simulator. Here&amp;#39;s a FET version that I&amp;#39;ve slapped together. (Important: this isn&amp;#39;t a&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;properly designed circuit, so don&amp;#39;t build it and expect it to be any good as a headphone amplifier. I might even be operating outside the spec for&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the FETs. And, the equation for transconductance of a tube is more complicated than a FET, so the FET isn&amp;#39;t quite an analogue of a tube and this&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;won&amp;#39;t behave in quite the same way as the valve version.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;[View:/resized-image/__size/586x464/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f/2630.contentimage_5F00_187567.jpg:586:464]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It does actually work (kind of works), though I can&amp;#39;t persuade it to follow properly (so the pull-down might be a bit skewy) - I get a gain of about 0.8. It&amp;#39;s&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;horribly inefficient - I&amp;#39;ve got a current of 30mA through the FETs and about 5mA peak into the load - but probably not as&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;inefficient as the tube version which I assume has a secondary use as a small room heater. Looks like there&amp;#39;s a moderate&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;amount of distortion on the output too. All of that could probably be improved with proper design, though it&amp;#39;s never going to&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;be that efficient because of the standing current through the FETs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;[View:/resized-image/__size/620x427/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f/6763.contentimage_5F00_187568.jpg:620:427]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frequency response is quite reasonable. Flat to 10MHz. Wonder how that compares to the valve version? Presumably the tubes do better because of lower parasitic capacitance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;[View:/resized-image/__size/620x243/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f/2543.contentimage_5F00_187569.jpg:620:243]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2018 16:02:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>neilk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice job. &lt;span&gt;[View:/resized-image/__size/16x16/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f/contentimage_5F00_1.png:16:16]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My first foray into electronics, in the early 60s, was to build a valve amplifier from a book of designs, published by the valve manufacturers Mullard. EF86, ECC83 and 2xEL84.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:35:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>rachaelp</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice project! I used to have a valve amp as part of my hifi setup, maybe I will build one of these headphone amps one day just so I can have some excuse to mess with valves &lt;span&gt;[View:/resized-image/__size/16x16/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f/contentimage_5F00_2516.png:16:16]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 00:33:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>jw0752</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I like this. Nice job building it. By using the modern voltage boost technology you are illustrating how old and new technology can work together to make a unique device.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:30:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>balearicdynamics</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice! Super retro vintage&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hear no sound in the video. Is it normal?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:19:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Brings back memories.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I used to build these back in the 1960&amp;#39;s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;DAB&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tube headphone amplifier</title><link>https://community.element14.com/challenges-projects/project14/simplemusicmaker/b/blog/posts/tube-headphone-amplifier</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:29:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:96e7da26-82cd-4fc8-82ee-44834d6dca1f</guid><dc:creator>genebren</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Very cool and very retro!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nice job.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gene&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.element14.com/aggbug?PostID=4951&amp;AppID=199&amp;AppType=Weblog&amp;ContentType=0" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>