Microsoft Will Die!

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

dougw — Sat, 20 Jun 2015 00:51:15 GMT

The touch tile concept is cool and should be developed to see how useful it can get.

But it is irresponsible to force Windows users to cripple their productivity for years while this development is taking place.

The touch tile interface should not even be called Windows - the actual widows are gone and the flexibility and power of windows is gone.

And it is not possible to work around the new interface in any productive way.

Microsoft has the resources to support 2 products - there is no need to cripple their bread-and-butter products with radical and risky changes.

This new OS is most likely to erode their dominant desktop market share, the 2 main places they can expand market share are by attracting Apple users or convincing people to stop using smart phones. This OS cannot do either, but it can alienate some of their existing user base. The desktop market, despite its sluggish growth it is still a gigantic market, but it would seem Microsoft is willing to risk their existing market to try and break into the smart phone market. It is a supreme risk, since they must compete against free operating systems to do it. The classic method of entering with a free product until you dominate the market and then start charging for the product may not work in this instance. Maybe they are thinking that once their existing users are used to touch tiles they will be ecstatic about switching to a tablet (Surface) where the interface makes more sense. We will just have to see how it plays out - at our expense. Right now it still looks like a massive mistake.

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

clem57 — Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:57:02 GMT

I started in Windows back 3.1 when OS/2 by IBM looked good, but was overly complex for the computers of the day. Now it appears the bloat is attacking latest versions of Windows too. Now I run Linux more than not.

Clem

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

johnbeetem — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:38:50 GMT

Nick wrote:

I just checked out the MS Windows 10 Developer preview. It was a disaster. I know it's still not ready, but it still has the horrible "Live Tiles". I didn't like it. (I know that it still isn't finished.)

There's an old saying: "It could be worse... but it will take time." Maybe they'll decide to drop Live Tiles and replace them with Bob [View:/resized-image/__size/16x16/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-15026d3e-d3a9-4947-a433-2440798ecc5f/contentimage_5F00_1.png:16:16]

I rather like Windows 2000. Other Windows versions evoke various degrees of odium. I say, the sooner Windows 10 is finished, the better. You can guess at how I'm using the word "finished" [View:/resized-image/__size/16x16/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-15026d3e-d3a9-4947-a433-2440798ecc5f/contentimage_5F00_1.png:16:16]

GNU/Linux for the desktop works OK for me. But then, I've been using and developing for Unix with X Windows long before I ever used MS Windows. I rather liked Apollo Computer's Domain OS. It got flushed when HP bought Apollo and replaced Domain with HP-YUX (phonetic spelling [View:/resized-image/__size/16x16/__key/commentfiles/f7d226abd59f475c9d224a79e3f0ec07-15026d3e-d3a9-4947-a433-2440798ecc5f/contentimage_5F00_1.png:16:16]) I also liked Macintosh OS before System 7, which made everything too complex and ruined the fun.

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

balearicdynamics — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:18:03 GMT

I am developing a driver for a client for windows 8.1 and 8.1 embedded , and it is true! Working with this strongly tablet-oriented OS on a PC is a mess.

Enrico

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

DAB — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:59:13 GMT

I had heard good things about Windows 10, but I have not run it yet.

I agree, Windows 8.0 and 8.1 were not well developed. Too much betting on the tablet market they forgot about the millions of us who use laptops and desk tops for work.

Perhaps with Balmer gone, they will focus on their USER base instead of trying to be trendy.

DAB

RE: Microsoft Will Die!

michaelkellett — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:50:50 GMT

Since you have made no comment on what Windows10 actually does other than "it still has the horrible "Live Tiles"" it's not easy to tell why you think it's a disaster.

Does it support the traditional (as in Win 7 and before) desktop ?

Will it run VB6 tools and exectuables ? (and other ancient stuff).

Is the performance any good ?

MS have always been good on compatibility with older software (unlike Linux where the possibility of recompiling the kernel, driver or application all too often becomes a necessity).