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PG_MODULE and VCCIO_EN signal levels

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Former Member over 7 years ago

While designing a carrier board for the picoZed Z7030 module I noticed the following regarding the voltage levels of these signals. Both signals are sourced by the open drain PG (powergood) pin of a TI TLV62130 switching regulator as well as a voltage divider between a specific power rail and ground (described below).


The pullup resistor is required as the PG signal is open drain. The assumed purpose of the pulldown resistor is to establish a low signal level before the regulator has enough supply voltage to drive the OD signal low/deasserted. An issue is that the divider reduces the high level output voltage, reducing the high level voltage margin.


VCCIO_EN
VCCIO_EN (PG_1V8 on PZ schematic) is the PG output of the 1.8V regulator. The voltage divider is a 1.5K pullup to 1.8V and a nominal 5K pulldown to ground. When the regulator PG pin is released the high logic level is nominally 1.38V. If the carrier were to treat this as a 1.8V logic level when monitoring VCCIO_EN, then there is very little margin between the 1.38V logic level and VIH(min) for a LVCMOS18 logic level. For LVC logic devices, VIH(min) = 1.17V, yielding a 210mV nominal margin.
If the pulldown resistor were increased to 10K, VOH increases to 1.57V and voltage margin is a more comfortable 400mV.


PG_MODULE
PG_MODULE is the PG output of the 1.8V regulator. The voltage divider is a 1K pullup to 3.3V and a nominal 5K pulldown to ground. This signal is driven by the carrier board, but may also be monitored by the carrier board to indicate that picoZed+carrier power is good. As with the VCCIO_EN signal, the resistive divider decreases VOH, but not as significantly as with VCCIO_EN.


The concern is with the 1K pullup to 3.3V, which causes the TLV62130 PG pin to nominally sink 3.3 mA. The TLV62130 data sheet only guarantees VOL(min) = 0.3V for PG sink current of 2mA max. Since PG_MODULE drives PS_POR_B, by design VOL(min) doesn't have a guaranteed level from the TLV62130. VOL(max) for PS_POR_B is 0.8V.
To operate the TLV62130 pin under the 2mA max spec'd sink current, the pullup resistor could be doubled to 2K and the pulldown to 10K.


The VCCIO_EN resistive divider doesn't adversely affect the logic high level, as the regulator PG pin is released the high logic level is nominally 2.53V. If the carrier treats this as a 3.3V logic level when monitoring PG_MODULE, VIH(min) for a LVCMOS33 logic level is 2.0V, yielding a 530mV logic high margin.


Neither of the above are critical issue, but worth noting. Please respond if the above analysis is incorrect.


NOTE TO AVNET: There is an minor error in figure 5 of PicoZed Hardware User Guide. The 1.8V, 3.3V, and DDR3L regulators are mistakenly labeled as TLV61230 (instead of TLV62130). This tripped me up when a search for that part number had no results. A quick peek at the schematic resolved the mystery.
 

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  • jafoste4
    0 jafoste4 over 7 years ago

    Hi Urbite,

    The resistor values are changed to accommodate TI’s VTT regulator silicon backfeed issue. The regulator backfeeds voltage on to the 1.8V rail (which is of course, not good). Below is the excerpt from the ECO.

    “PG output floats when part unpowered (open drain). This signal pulls low when power applied but not at threshold (87% - 94% of nominal output voltage). The Texas Instrument’s VTT termination regulator (U13.2) has an issue with voltage backfeeding the 1.8V rail. Rev. F-06 used BOM change on resistor R35, increased to 1.5K to reduce the output low at this node due to the backfeed of the VTT regulator.

    The new Revision G. design ties U13.2 to 3.3V. Change resistor value to maintain compatibility with F-06 and PZ signal levels. Keep resistor at 1K to allow the logic Vhigh = 1.383V with R35 @ 1.5K. Vhigh = 1.499V with R35 @ 1.0K”.  

    Ultimately you can do whatever you need to do with these signals, as long as it interfaces with the SOM correctly. If cost and space weren’t a significant consideration for our boards, I would recommend you use a comparator circuit and Schmitt trigger logic device whereupon you can optimize thresholds to meet your needs. 

    --Josh

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