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Maaxboard IMX8 Mini with raspberry pi camera v3

fa0888 — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 02:05:30 GMT

Hello,

I would like a confirmation if the AES-MC-SBC-IMX8MINI-G will work with the https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/camera-module-3/ via MIPI-CS-2

Raspberry PI camera v3 is using the Sony IMX708.

https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-6.6.y/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/imx708-overlay.dts

https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-6.6.y/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/imx708.dtsi

Can i just set in file uEnv.txt ?

dtoverlay_camera=imx708

Thank you.

Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

HKPhysicist — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 15:49:31 GMT

Hello Engineers,

I have even tried the BeaglePlay SBC which is out-sourced to China SeeedStudio`s production line in Vietnam. It's TI WL card dies after 6 months of purchase and after 70 days of stability test while it did nothing. [emoticon:c5352b3033f144c4ab70d527023c5190]
I personally also like Raspberry Pi4 because it is stable while running under a chip fan. Also, it is made in Wales, UK! Quality is the top in the industry! [emoticon:578cee8aac0e41e9bcef50a2f8d281d5] However, it is not within the industrial electronic requirement (-40C/-20C to 85C).
So could any expert introduce a Linux SBC (working as a border router with LTE dialup) with at least 2GB RAM, 16GB eMMC, average video without graphical acceleration, a wireless lan, an Ethernet, and the last but not the least, not made in China. The cost of electronic made in China is actually very high!!! [emoticon:c5352b3033f144c4ab70d527023c5190]
Is Snapdrogon 410 board within the industrial stability standard?

Thanks for your opinions.

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RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

Jan Cumps — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:55:34 GMT

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The internet says it has been hacked

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

phoenixcomm — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:40:09 GMT

HKPhysicist Ok, here we go! First, the pi will not do it. as it lacks multiple RJ45s, one for incoming the other for outgoing. Personally build a Box and put in it OpenBSD it comes with the best firewall/router in the biz, has never ever been hacked, small learning curve. My box that I pulled together is running 4 network connections, plus one on the mother board which makes 5.

All inbound, and outbound traffic
Public HTML server VOIP server (two public addresses Astrix (Rasberry PI) and has a USB to Ethernet for the Phones)
Second PI for the PIhole
Nat to the internal network 197.168.x.x
back do for special stuff

You cant do that on the PI!! any older box will do. 8Gb of memory (P2) and 1 Gb HDA

So where did I get all the ports from?? Simple put in a few adapters. ~~ Good Luck Cris H.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

Jan Cumps — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 18:50:13 GMT

The CM4 module has this big advantage: it's been on the market for a while. Proven availability and support.

I have these 3 industrial targetted SBCs. From established brands. And they are all end-of-life. They had a 1 - 2 year lifecycle. Now without support / software / patches

Nice hardware, but boat anchors.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

Cquk — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 10:44:38 GMT

We used the PI CM4 module. It has the best support and you can be sure of ongoing updates. Some of the other systems we used needed "Custom" linux. That was out of date or hard to compile

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

HKPhysicist — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 10:39:49 GMT

Thanks for that nice photo.

I am also considering something like this after having read your comments.

I will start with Pi Compute IO Board and AVNET MAXX Board. 🙂

I also think that a grounded metal case is crucial for stability.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

HKPhysicist — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 10:29:11 GMT

Yes, I am locking down to Pi Compute IO Board and AVNET MAXX Board which claims to work between 0C to 70C.

hk.element14.com/.../4551378

However, MAXX Board is also made in China, a big alert of low quality! (hidden issues are - recycled components, fake big name components, low quality China components with fake specifications claimed, etc).

I am not making anything military. I just hope my electronic can tolerate outdoor weather around a year, similar to most outdoor communication gears. First of all, I want to try my gear in East Asia. So 0C to 70C, somewhat humid around spring and summer, should be reasonable. Also, we must consider those super hot sunny days! The Sun is not kidding nowadays.

These are my experiences on my own electronics:

I did a test on my China smart phone. I placed it inside my refrigerator. I closed the door. A few minutes later when I took it out, it hung. Refrigerator is at 4C.
My 2 Japan made Toshiba water kettles. It boils water up to 100C everyday and keeps warms with built-in electronics. In winter when the temperature is close to 0C, it still works. I own 2 of them. Each works almost 10 years. The first one was dumped because my family complained that it's appearance was too old. 😆 They meet industrial standard.
My Philips rice cooker. it boils con-gee, rices, everything we feed into it up to 100C everyday and still works after many years. It is industrial standard.
My Mitsubishi consumer grade refrigerator. It works from -20C (freezer) up to very hot summer 45C (its case?!).
My Japan made rechargeable NiMH battery. I charged it one time and it has been driving my blood pressure meter so many times. I even forget when I charged it last time. 😆
China made rechargeable NiMH battery bought from RS. After several times of use, it could not drive my blood pressure meter any more. I could not even recharge it successfully. Then, I dumped it. 😆 Its price is the same as my Japan made rechargeable NiMH battery.
China made RS electrical wall plate - I screwed it and it broke. My family scolded me and I replaced it with a Britain made MK electrical wall plate. I screwed it hard and it is still intact.
unknown dimmable wall switch + ikea dimmable LED light bulbs - users complained that ikea bulbs burn once each day and they must keep the bulbs on to keep them alive.
French made Clipsal dimmable wall switch + ikea dimmable LED light bulbs - I have 4 of them and they are still working after one and 1/2 years. 😆
My 3 Panasonic air coolers - one runs 20 hours a day in summer and still runs after 12 years. I even can't touch its metal case in summer. In addition, I keep them clean with expensive 3M air filters.
my China made blood pressure meter readings deviates from an in-hospital blood pressure meter very much. My Japan made AND meter matches with hospital blood pressure meter very well.
My 2nd handed DELL PC runs for 2 years in my living room. I just shut it down for cleaning up in winter. In summer, its case fan roars and still works.

The experiments go on everyday.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

shabaz — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 21:59:20 GMT

It's often things like crystal choice which can make the difference and some other components might operate at higher temperatures when tested. As well as the compute module, Avnet also offer a complete custom service (in conjunction with raspberrypi.com as I understand) where they will drop the Pi design directly onto a PCB. Hilscher did that with Avnet (I think). The photo below isn't high-quality, but the Pi 3 portion is visible at the lower-right. Since it was a custom design, they were able to add plug-in functionality, like interfaces (don't know if they had LTE, I think they didn't, but they were thinking of opening up that port so that users could create their own plug-on boards). But it's now obsolete (I think due to part obsolescence), and they suggest the netFIELD product now.

I think if the OP finds the closest industrial product that meets his needs (there are dozens of industrial computers and routers, and nearly all will support custom applications), he should talk to the manufacturer, who will probably be more than happy to advise how to further ruggedized and improve the temp spec to meet a need. If he has money to spend, then Avnet will design him one based on a Pi.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

electronicbiker — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 20:52:58 GMT

Raspberry Pi make the 'Compute' module which I believe is used in various industrial-grade PLC's and the like. I don't know much about it as a) I've never had cause to use it, b) the last company I worked for made their own PLC look-alikes, and c) I havn't worked in industry for several years as I am retired. The information is on the Raspberry Pi web site, it might be worth a look. But reading between the lines it looks as if you might be needing military spec devices at vast expense, and I don't think the Compute module qualifies.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

Jan Cumps — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 16:59:32 GMT

A few asks - related to industrial design:

The BPlay has no industrial certifications. Is it matching your SBC with Industrial stability requirements?

Where do TI specify the 10 years for the WL card?

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

shabaz — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 16:27:06 GMT

I think that netFIELD has a good chance to be suitable. There are serial, and USB and Ethernet interfaces to connect additional hardware. The manufacturer rates it to +60 degrees C, but if you talk to them, they will tell you what the limiting factor is (and if it can be modified). For example, they may state that better cooling is needed to operate at +85 degrees C.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

HKPhysicist — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 16:24:34 GMT

I just doubt how a TI WL chip dies after 6 months of purchase?!? It is at least 10 years! 😤

The most possible cause is the inferior resistors, capacitors, fake big name components, low quality China components, etc! Just see how they pack their electrical vehicles!

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

HKPhysicist — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 16:19:20 GMT

Thanks for your valuable opinions.

Yes, you are correct because I still need a Wi-SUN border router board to connect to my Linux SBC. So I need an industrial grade Linux SBC to work with a separate Wi-SUN border router.

RE: Please recommend a Linux SBC with Industrial stability while it is made in ABC?

shabaz — Sun, 03 Nov 2024 16:08:32 GMT

Border router has a special meaning, I doubt that's what you actually want (if you are, then a typical SBC is going to be very inadequate).

There are ready-made, packaged, small edge compute devices, some of which are intended for industrial deployments. You'd be better off using one of those, even tearing them apart and repackaging them if necessary (some industrial users tend to do that), since they usually run Linux under the hood, and many of the modern ones will allow you to run either a container or perhaps a full virtual machine with your software.

Otherwise, another option is to get a custom SBC made to your specs. Raspberry Pi and/or Avnet offer this service. An example is a Hilscher product called netPi, it's an industrial device with custom Pi in it, although it was discontinued last year. However, they offer an alternative product called netFIELD: https://www.hilscher.com/products/edge-gateways-with-container-management/edge-gateways/nfx8m-d2-n32-010

You can run your own software on it, since it supports containers. I don't know if it has an LTE interface (or if it could be added as a plug-in module) but there are other ready-made devices out there with LTE.

Learning C++20 - Progress with Standard Template Language

Jan Cumps — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:04:20 GMT

Follow up on:
Try out C++20 Preview: set up a development environment
Sorting in the C++20 release

When I wrote the posts above, a good year ago, I started to learn the latest evolutions in C++.
I didn't want to just poke around, but do a thorough training. I purchased this e-book: C++ Standard library (also available in print). By Rainer Grimm.
I've used the STL extensively in my job - I was C++ developer in the 2nd half of the 90's. That allows me to use this book to focus on the concepts new to C++20.
I'm trying to temper my enthousism a little, because I am a Rainer Grimm and STL fanboy, but: this is a great book.

As the title indicates, it doesn't focus on new language constructs but on the template library. While doing that, Rainer manages to sneak in a lot of the new language changes.
(I think) that the majority of changes are in the STL and in concurrent programming, so there is significant overlap by default.

For my learning journey, I've set up Eclipse and the latest GNU toolchain for Windows (if you check my other posts: also for Ubuntu, Pi, ..., but I digress).
Then I walked through all chapters, and tried all examples:

image: Eclipse ready to debug a C++ STL example. To avoid that I have to create a project for each example, I created a project for the whole book. When I'm finished testing an example, I exclude it from build and start with the next one.

Having the examples in a debugger, and step through what's happening, is my preferred learning method for software.
I like to bite into the code. Drill into the statements, view variables, view changes.
That way, they stick into my memory forever. If I read - even with full focus - I tend to forget after a while. Stepping through seems to fix the processes in my memory.

The STL book is well organised. There's a natural flow in three ways:

from overall usable to more specific and niche
from easy to difficult
from known traditional concepts to revolutionary changes

The two first, I think, are self explaining. The third subject is less intuitive. But that's where new concepts can be learned that aren't C++ specific, but show where software development is evolving.
I'm name-dropping one: lambda functions. But there's a number of concepts that help to make executable logic object-savvy.

Last kudo is to the C++ governance team, for taking care that the evolution doesn't increase the footprint. Most changes extend the way you can code your intents, without generating a bigger or slower execution. And some of them deal with fat that was added in previous language increments.

image: customer action photo

If you're interested in evolving together with the C++ language: Rainer Grimm's blog Modern C++ contains everything of my book, and more.
Well written, updated constantly, challenging the brain...

RE: Learning C++20 - Progress with Standard Template Language

Jan Cumps — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:49:31 GMT

I finished the book early 2023. Since then I redid a few chapters, that became more useful when most of the C++23 standard was supported by the GCC embedded toolchains.

3 takeaways:

I studied each time I was in the US. Chicago, IL and Covington, KY. Sometimes, a location helps to focus on a goal.
C++ and the STL are fit for embedded systems.
It's worth learning Modern C++. for object-oriented, structured, functional, generic, or generative style development. There is a wealth of solutions for our common problems. Wheels were invented.

RE: MaaXBoard RT operating Temperature verification

flyingbean — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:35:09 GMT

One temperature range is for NXP's i.MX RT1176 commercial grade. Another temperature range is for NXP's i.MX RT1176 industry grade.

Avnet recently updated the website on this SBC board. The industrial grade MaaXBoard RT board web page looked disappeared now.

MaaXBoard RT operating Temperature verification

P_Schoenke — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:48:09 GMT

Hello,

The product brief for the MaaXBoard RT shows:

P22_800_Maaxboard_RT_Product_Brief_al-v2.pdf (avnet.com)

But the hardware user guide shows:

MaaXBoard+RT+User+Guide+(v1.0).pdf (avnet.com)

Any feedback or input is welcomed and appreciated!

Thanks!

Paul

RE: MaaXBoard RT operating Temperature verification

dougw — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:22:27 GMT

The operating temperature is listed as -30C to +85C and 0 to 70C.

Is that supposed to be storage and operating?

Custom SBC from old cellphone logic boards possible?

jjimminey — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:57:51 GMT

Hi everyone.

First of all, let me say right off that I know that this is an ambitious project. I also know that I probably shouldn't make the attempt without learning a heck of a lot more information. This all being said, I have a project in mind and have devised a method to go about accomplishing it. What I'm asking for here is simply if my methodology seems sound and any advice that can be offered on this project. Please keep in mind that, success or failure, I will be doing this project despite being a noob if for no reason than (if it fails) to try it. I have all the necessary tools at my disposal to do this project (including a wave table). I'm wanting to do it open source too if anyone would want to help.

So. I was given a crap-ton of logic boards from an old phone. They are all the same model demo phone and they all worked when removed. They were going to be utterly destroyed but the company in charge of them gave to me instead to play with. It was all done above board so no worries there. Also: YAY for not creating more ewaste!

So now I have 6 demo boards from an LG G7 THINQ with maxed out RAM, snapdragon 845 (for which I have the data sheet directly from Qualcomm), and 64GB onboard storage. They are only missing the LTE modem which I can purchase from someplace else (and the logic boards have the solder points for the LTE modem).

Right. I want to use these boards to work on my near nonexistent hardware design skills by using the components to design and build a custom SBC with custom firmware. Now about my plans:

I was thinking I would take high resolution images of the board both front and back.

Then desolder the components and take more images of the bare PCB.

Draw out the traces I can workout.

Sand off the solder mask and continue drawing out the traces.

Continue sanding down the 4 layer board and drawing the traces until I am confident that all traces are known.

Reconfigure those traces in a PCB design program to be the shape I want rather than the ugly one of the logic board.

Rework some of the systems to add in features supported by the processor but not included on the phone.

Alter the display system and any other required bits to allow for a more robust selection of parts (the screen connector is the same number of pins and the same type as the one I want to use but a different connector type).

Increase the RAM to the highest capacity supported by the processor (I will have enough chips provided I don't kill them but the design will need to be altered to accommodate this).

Have a prototyping board manufacturer like JBL turn my new layout into a board.

Re-solder the components to the new board layout out and make an SBC that I will eventually turn into an emulation handheld.

I know that this is ultimately the hardware equivalent of tracing an image in a coloring book and altering it slightly to suit your own needs but I'm just doing it, first and foremost, for fun, and secondly, to just learn about the hardware and software workings incorporated into the undertaking (like using the design software and the hardware itself).

Finally, as stated, I'd like to make my own firmware or operating system for this thing. I have already had some practice in this as I made a custom version of RockBox to use on my iPOD Classic back in the day. I doubt it'll be that simple but meh, what worth doing is simple? And I could start with the open source Android kernel and go from there, right? Meh. This will come much later.

So!? What do you all think? This is a sound thought process? Do you all have any recommendations or suggestions? Is this a stupid idea? What else could these boards be used for if not for this?

The resulting emulation handheld would have maxed out RAM to the processor, a Snapdragon 845, Wifi and Bluetooth, and LTE access. I think it would be a cool thing to play around with. I'm worried that my thought process is flawed. Would anyone out there want to help or be interested for this to be done open source?

Thanks,

Jim

RE: Custom SBC from old cellphone logic boards possible?

moavdul — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 07:36:43 GMT

any updates ?

RE: LattePanda3 Delta NVMe SSD installation with Windows 11

robogary — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:42:51 GMT

Olivia Newton John would sing "have to believe it is magic."

LattePanda3 Delta NVMe SSD installation with Windows 11

robogary — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:46:13 GMT

Background:

Late 2022 , I participated in a Road Test for the LattePanda 3 Delta. It is a wonderful SBC.

The onboard Arduino was used to read multiple thermistors and create a enclosure fan control system.

/products/roadtest/rv/roadtest_reviews/1650/lattepanda3_delta

During the Road Test I had filled up the available LattePanda3 Delta storage with screen captures and videos of the tests, short term using Google drive as shared data storage.

I vowed to upgrade the LattePanda3 Delta storage, and here it is .............

using a shopping cart from a subsequent Project 14 winner award, an SSD was ordered

https://www.newark.com/micron/mtfdkba256tfk-1bc1aabyy/ssd-pcie-nvme-nand-256gb/dp/67AJ1367?ost=67aj1367

MTFDKBA256TFK-1BC1AABYY

SSD, M.2 PCIe SSD, M.2 2280, PCIe, NVMe, 256 GB, NAND, AES 256-bit

I not sure what got me to order the NVMe, everywhere I referenced used a SSD SATA, and that was my original intention,

The NVMe SSD install experience:

Several You Tube videos show SATA SSD installs on LattePanda3 Delta, but I didnt see any with Windows 11 or the SSD in the NVMe slot.

The videos all were informative and shared one critical message: Once installed the SSD had to be activated using disc manager.

I stumbled around the Windows 11 disc manager a couple times before finding the way to activate the SSD.

It is really easy...........once you figure it out.

Here are photos and screen shots I hope saves someone time , or gives them confidence, to add an SSD to the LattePanda3 Delta:

This is the LattePanda3 Delta with power off, i.e. the power supply unplugged.

I have an extra terminal board mounted under the standoffs for wiring to the onboard Arduino.

A. Flip the LattePanda 3 over. Note the upper PCie expansion slot for SSD SATA & the lower for NVMe.

I had previously left the expansion boards screws installed underneath.

I removed the holding screw, The NVMe board fit easily into the connector, and put the screw back in.

The slot connectors are keyed, you cant install it in the incorrect slot.

b. flip the LattePanda3 over on its feet and power up.

c. Once the LattePanda3 is booted back up, go to the Windows search at the bottom of the screen, and type in disc manager

the screen is shown in the photo - Notice bottom window shows a disk 0 and disk 1 , with disk 1 being unallocated.

Disk 1 is the new SSD.

It does not show up if using file manager under MyPC.

D. All you have to do now is allocate the SSD and define it. This was surprisingly easy, defaulted suggestions were used.

Start by selecting disc 1 by selecting it with the mouse and left click, then right click. I selected the "simple" wizard.

The screen shots show the rest of the process.

Now the LattePanda3 Delta has a drive D.

YAY !

RE: Custom SBC from old cellphone logic boards possible?

--- — Fri, 02 Sep 2022 16:35:59 GMT

Hey Jim

Do you have any photos of the board and also: how far did you get?

Best,

--- human on earth