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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.element14.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/products/eagle/f/eagle-user-chat-english/12463/pads-in-inner-layers</link><description>I am making my first board with inner supply layers, and when I make the cam files, the component pads are showin up in the inner layers. Since the supply layers are inverted, this makes an area around the thru-holes with no copper, and none of my power</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:35:14 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://community.element14.com/products/eagle/f/eagle-user-chat-english/12463/pads-in-inner-layers" /><item><title>RE: Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/3811?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:35:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:daea392b-8276-47ef-a2e9-6023b5a44bb6</guid><dc:creator>e14 Contributor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Paxton Alsgaard schrieb:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;a class="" href="https://www.element14.com/community/..."&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;I have attached a couple of screen shots to clarify the issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;a class="" href="https://www.element14.com/community/..."&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Take care that if you are posting through the web interface at&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;element-14, none of your &amp;quot;attachments&amp;quot; are sent to the newsgroups.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Besides other bugs and limitations, this is one of the disadvantages of&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;that interface. You might consider directly accessing the newsgroups&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;with a newsreader.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Otherwise, you&amp;#39;d better place your files anywhere on the web and include&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;links in your post.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Anyway, thanks for letting us know you found the solution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Tilmann&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/3808?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:41:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:21dc5279-9ed1-4e2d-a262-f300e580c859</guid><dc:creator>e14 Contributor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;On 09/07/2010 01:16 PM, Paxton Alsgaard wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Tilmann,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Thank you for your time, I greatly appreciate the help. I have&amp;nbsp; checked the&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;names of all the layers and nets several times, and I think that&amp;nbsp; they are&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;correct. I don&amp;#39;t know what I&amp;#39;m doing wrong. I have attached a&amp;nbsp; couple of&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;screen shots to clarify the issue. Help1 is the Eagle layout, and&amp;nbsp; Help2 is&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;the gerber files open in Gerbv, with only the ground layer,&amp;nbsp; silkscreen, and&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;drill data shown. You can see that the thermal symbol is&amp;nbsp; shown in the supply&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;layer in eagle, but when the CAM files are generated,&amp;nbsp; the pad shows up in&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;the supply layer as negative space. The oval pads on the&amp;nbsp; IC above C10 show&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;up as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Again, I appreciate your help. Thank&amp;nbsp; You,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Paxton&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Image:help1.JPG&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Image:help2.JPG&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Can&amp;#39;t see the image in the newsgroup but from what you are describing I &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;think this could be the problem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;I never used supply layers but I think when using supply layers don&amp;#39;t &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;include the pad&amp;#39;s in the cam setup for that layer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Paul R.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/3807?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:30:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:6154938b-b08a-4ef9-9523-746e14b00f7a</guid><dc:creator>e14 Contributor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Well I solved the problem. It was fairly easy to fix, although not obvious to me at first. In the CAM Job, pads and vias were selected for each inner layer tab, which is why they were showing up on the inner layers. Duh, right? Deselecting those in the job gave me the following:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/450x326/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/309/contentimage_5F00_174114.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="image" src="https://community-storage.element14.com/communityserver-components-secureimagefileviewer/communityserver/discussions/components/files/309/contentimage_174114.jpg-450x326.jpg?sv=2016-05-31&amp;amp;sr=b&amp;amp;sig=nXgwe2ppu%2BGuhgPOzEVxav10QF8qGo%2BIJ6tBmYA2Cz8%3D&amp;amp;se=2026-08-22T23%3A59%3A59Z&amp;amp;sp=r&amp;amp;_=rbBThSc0vfWkTK9iEGB5gA==" style="max-height: 326px;max-width: 450px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Looks good. I now had an inner layer clearance error, which was fixed by activating restring for the thermal isolate under the supply tab in DRC. The final result, below, gives no more errors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/450x325/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/309/contentimage_5F00_174115.jpg"&gt;&lt;img loading="lazy" alt="image" src="https://community-storage.element14.com/communityserver-components-secureimagefileviewer/communityserver/discussions/components/files/309/contentimage_174115.jpg-450x325.jpg?sv=2016-05-31&amp;amp;sr=b&amp;amp;sig=FNqt3LFBPEBD2MhSOofQ%2BdxR5vvKH0OxgxPCtiRCYRA%3D&amp;amp;se=2026-08-22T23%3A59%3A59Z&amp;amp;sp=r&amp;amp;_=HAqaPDXRXviS67RZmdOdLA==" style="max-height: 325px;max-width: 450px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;I would like to thank you Tilmann for your help, and I hope that this thread can help others who may run into the same issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/3795?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:16:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:ec6973a0-de1b-4e0b-b949-18b6a9e365ff</guid><dc:creator>e14 Contributor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Tilmann,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Thank you for your time, I greatly appreciate the help. I have&amp;nbsp; checked the &lt;br /&gt;names of all the layers and nets several times, and I think that&amp;nbsp; they are &lt;br /&gt;correct. I don&amp;#39;t know what I&amp;#39;m doing wrong. I have attached a&amp;nbsp; couple of &lt;br /&gt;screen shots to clarify the issue. Help1 is the Eagle layout, and&amp;nbsp; Help2 is &lt;br /&gt;the gerber files open in Gerbv, with only the ground layer,&amp;nbsp; silkscreen, and &lt;br /&gt;drill data shown. You can see that the thermal symbol is&amp;nbsp; shown in the supply &lt;br /&gt;layer in eagle, but when the CAM files are generated,&amp;nbsp; the pad shows up in &lt;br /&gt;the supply layer as negative space. The oval pads on the&amp;nbsp; IC above C10 show &lt;br /&gt;up as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Again, I appreciate your help. Thank&amp;nbsp; You,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Paxton&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/450x312/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/309/contentimage_5F00_174112.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="image" src="https://community-storage.element14.com/communityserver-components-secureimagefileviewer/communityserver/discussions/components/files/309/contentimage_174112.jpg-450x312.jpg?sv=2016-05-31&amp;amp;sr=b&amp;amp;sig=z7U%2BFUY42lBtrEvBttSX0yjN%2BGes8fWDbz1JNuMhyMo%3D&amp;amp;se=2026-08-22T23%3A59%3A59Z&amp;amp;sp=r&amp;amp;_=qHZrMarTlpzHdSIGihqsmg==" style="max-height: 312px;max-width: 450px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/450x315/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/309/contentimage_5F00_174113.jpg"&gt;&lt;img loading="lazy" alt="image" src="https://community-storage.element14.com/communityserver-components-secureimagefileviewer/communityserver/discussions/components/files/309/contentimage_174113.jpg-450x315.jpg?sv=2016-05-31&amp;amp;sr=b&amp;amp;sig=%2FPP3GJMiRTzQE2KQIS2OWHm%2F3%2FsTgCDtFcRFIbl%2BN3E%3D&amp;amp;se=2026-08-22T23%3A59%3A59Z&amp;amp;sp=r&amp;amp;_=ODAXWsQapmmse0/rYewZ6w==" style="max-height: 315px;max-width: 450px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Pads in inner layers</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/3724?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:46:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:8c6766dc-264d-4014-b4f2-f2f1c05269c7</guid><dc:creator>e14 Contributor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Paxton Alsgaard schrieb:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;I am making my first board with inner supply layers, and when I make the cam &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;files, the component pads are showin up in the inner layers. Since the &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;supply layers are inverted, this makes an area around the thru-holes with no &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;copper, and none of my power or ground connections are being made. How do I &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;keep the pads from showing up in my supply layers? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Probably you didn&amp;#39;t set the NAME of the supply layers (or your supply&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;nets) correctly resp. matching each other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Of course every pad that has another net/signal name is insulated in the&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;supply layer by the &amp;quot;annulus&amp;quot; symbols you noticed. Those pads that have&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;the same name will show a &amp;quot;thermal&amp;quot; symbol in the supply layer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;For details, see HELP LAYER (and/or the manual).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;You might check your signal names with the SHOW command and look what&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;gets hightlighted. Also, INFO is a good help.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;"&gt;Tilmann&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin:0;padding:0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>