How to change all wires?

Karst wrote:

In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

I know I can do that with the command  CHANGE and GROUP but is there

an other way ?

With GROUP some other wires ( for example WIDTH of 0.5mm ) change too.

The ULP

cmd-change-brd-width.ulp

can do it for you

All the best

Warren

Karst schrieb:

I 'am using Eagle 5.11

 

In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

I know I can do that with the command  CHANGE and GROUP but is there an

other way ?

With GROUP some other wires ( for example WIDTH of 0.5mm ) change too.

You could try cmd-change-brd-width.ulp.

Tilmann

On 2/8/2011 1:04 PM, Tilmann Reh wrote:

Karst schrieb:

 

>> I 'am using Eagle 5.11

>>

>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

>> I know I can do that with the command  CHANGE and GROUP but is there an

>> other way ?

>> With GROUP some other wires ( for example WIDTH of 0.5mm ) change too.

 

You could try cmd-change-brd-width.ulp.

 

Tilmann

Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

maybe this is what you are really looking for.

also, you can group by box and then ungroup certain elements, but I

don't remember how to do it, it is possible though.

On 2/8/2011 12:39 PM, Karst wrote:

I 'am using Eagle 5.11

 

In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

I know I can do that with the command  CHANGE and GROUP but is there an

other way ?

With GROUP some other wires ( for example WIDTH of 0.5mm ) change too.

 

THANKS

 

>

Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

maybe this is what you are really looking for.

also, you can group by box and then ungroup certain elements, but I

don't remember how to do it, it is possible though.

Gary Gofstein schrieb:

>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

 

Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

maybe this is what you are really looking for.

I don't think so:

- Modifying classes does not change anything that is already routed;

- Class widths are used /only/ by the autorouter and have absolutely no

  effect when routing manually.

Tilmann

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Gary Gofstein schrieb:

>>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

>>

>> Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

>> class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

>> hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

>> maybe this is what you are really looking for.

 

I don't think so:

- Modifying classes does not change anything that is already routed;

- Class widths are used /only/ by the autorouter and have absolutely no

effect when routing manually.

I somewhat agree with Gary. I use classes myself, but it needs to be

followed up with ULP's. I have ULP's for grouping classes (on specific

layers), and with that I can easily change width of a class,, no matter what

it used to be. It is very useful when doing impedance match and when you

play with stackup materials and distances.

Morten Leikvoll schrieb:

"Tilmann Reh" <usenet2007nospam@autometer.de> wrote in message

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>> Gary Gofstein schrieb:

>>>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>>>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

>>>

>>> Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

>>> class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

>>> hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

>>> maybe this is what you are really looking for.

>>

>> I don't think so:

>> - Modifying classes does not change anything that is already routed;

>> - Class widths are used /only/ by the autorouter and have absolutely no

>>  effect when routing manually.

 

I somewhat agree with Gary. I use classes myself, but it needs to be

followed up with ULP's. I have ULP's for grouping classes (on specific

layers), and with that I can easily change width of a class,, no matter what

it used to be. It is very useful when doing impedance match and when you

play with stackup materials and distances.

You are right - but without additional ULPs, using classes wouldn't

solve the OPs problem.

(And even for what you described, the previously mentioned width change

ULP can be restricted to a particular signal - so for most cases it

should be sufficient.)

Tilmann

Thanks all for the information.

But I was thinking there maybe  a ULP so you can change all wires with width

0.2mm into 0.15mm without selecting all the wires seperate.

Karst

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Morten Leikvoll schrieb:

 

>> "Tilmann Reh" <usenet2007nospam@autometer.de> wrote in message

>> news:iitfcc$rqg$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

>>> Gary Gofstein schrieb:

>>>>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>>>>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

>>>>

>>>> Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

>>>> class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way

>>>> your

>>>> hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

>>>> maybe this is what you are really looking for.

>>>

>>> I don't think so:

>>> - Modifying classes does not change anything that is already routed;

>>> - Class widths are used /only/ by the autorouter and have absolutely no

>>>  effect when routing manually.

>>

>> I somewhat agree with Gary. I use classes myself, but it needs to be

>> followed up with ULP's. I have ULP's for grouping classes (on specific

>> layers), and with that I can easily change width of a class,, no matter

>> what

>> it used to be. It is very useful when doing impedance match and when you

>> play with stackup materials and distances.

 

You are right - but without additional ULPs, using classes wouldn't

solve the OPs problem.

(And even for what you described, the previously mentioned width change

ULP can be restricted to a particular signal - so for most cases it

should be sufficient.)

 

Tilmann

Karst wrote:

Thanks all for the information.

 

But I was thinking there maybe  a ULP so you can change all wires

with width

0.2mm into 0.15mm without selecting all the wires seperate.

 

Karst

 

The mentioned ULP does it both ways. I'm referring to the ULP bundled with

Eagle v5.11 The ULP dialog has 1.5.1 as a version on it. The version that

came with v4.16R1 looks similar.

So you either:

- select the signals of interest

- or select none but check the box below ("Change without Signal name") and

you then enter the range in the bottom two fields. The fields are

'inclusive' so for your example above put 0.15  in the first box and 0.2.

Note the Units are whatever your board is in currently i.e.. mm  inch  mil

or mic

All the best

Warren

On 2/8/2011 11:22 PM, Tilmann Reh wrote:

Gary Gofstein schrieb:

 

>>> In my layout I have many traces with  WIDTH of 0.2mm.

>>> Now I would like to change all that wires  in WIDTH 0.15mm.

>>

>> Also, you should look into classes, by assigning nets to a certain

>> class, you can control width and clearance for that class. that way your

>> hi current or power nets don't need to change with your signal nets.

>> maybe this is what you are really looking for.

 

I don't think so:

- Modifying classes does not change anything that is already routed;

- Class widths are used /only/ by the autorouter and have absolutely no

   effect when routing manually.

 

Tilmann

Yes, I was wondering if maybe the OP was really after a way to control

the widths as he was doing the board, since he mentioned "other ways".

That's why I said "look into" classes, because it is not clear if it

solves his problem or not, but may be useful to him.

As an aside, wouldn't it be better if the manual router used the net

class information to preload the width of the traces? I never actually

noticed that it doesn't. Maybe that's why I stopped using net classes