Farmers can now repair their John Deere equipment, and John Deere unveils two new systems at CES 2023

RE: Farmers can now repair their John Deere equipment, and John Deere unveils two new systems at CES 2023

Jan Cumps — Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:55:32 GMT

[mention:b85bafb1d1a14cd0b49feeaee407e32d:e9ed411860ed4f2ba0265705b8793d05] , related to the repair section of your post above: this is a repeating John Deere's press release. Farmers and independent repairers (and I) do not agree. Have you vetted this?

RE: Farmers can now repair their John Deere equipment, and John Deere unveils two new systems at CES 2023

mp2100 — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:46:04 GMT

It is good news, but the people over at ifixit have looked at the details:

the agreement comes at a price: In turn, AFBF has promised to encourage its state organizations to “refrain from introducing, promoting, or supporting federal or state ‘Right to Repair’ legislation that imposes obligations beyond the commitments in this MOU.” And farmers who want to fix their own equipment might very well need to go beyond the commitments of the MOU, which has some big limitations. It is unclear whether it gives farmers access to the fully privileged Service ADVISOR software that dealers use (more on that later) and the payload files needed to activate spare parts. Through this agreement, the AFBF has promised not to fight for any of those other pieces of repair access, although their separate state organizations could continue the fight.

https://www.ifixit.com/News/70877/deere-promised-farmers-the-right-to-repair-can-we-trust-them

and:

Meanwhile, the agreement is essentially toothless—there’s no way for farmers to hold Deere accountable for the promises they’ve made, no means for redressing any failure to meet the terms of the MOU. And historically, Deere has been really, verifiably, terribly bad about making good on its repair promises. Plus, at any point, Deere can choose to terminate the agreement in 30 days (if, for instance, they get tired of farmers complaining about Right to Repair).

Here's hoping Deere really wants to help farmers be able to do their hard work.

RE: Farmers can now repair their John Deere equipment, and John Deere unveils two new systems at CES 2023

DAB — Sat, 14 Jan 2023 19:17:49 GMT

Great victory for the farmers.

It is bad enough that they are locked into proprietary equipment.

Forcing them to only go to the company for any sort of repairs and maintenance is ludicrous.

RE: Farmers can now repair their John Deere equipment, and John Deere unveils two new systems at CES 2023

dougw — Fri, 13 Jan 2023 20:21:20 GMT

It is amazing how many predatory practices consumers have to put up with, and the suppliers won't back off until the government steps in.