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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.element14.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Forum - Recent Threads</title><link>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum</link><description /><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 11:03:41 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum" /><item><title>first impressions: multicomp PRO handheld oscilloscope</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/52325?ContentTypeID=0</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 19:07:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:d7acdafc-e00c-42e7-baac-5702fadcc6e5</guid><dc:creator>Jan Cumps</dc:creator><slash:comments>47</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/52325?ContentTypeID=0</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/52325/first-impressions-multicomp-pro-handheld-oscilloscope/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;table style="background-color:#fffde0;border-color:#000000;" border="1"&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;With the shopping cart I won in a project14 month, I&amp;nbsp;ordered a handheld oscilloscope. In this post: my first impressions.&lt;br /&gt;I &amp;#39;ll focus on using the instrument the very first time as a handheld test instrument. I will not review software, specs, competition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:904px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " height="904" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x1808/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20230115_5F00_193107.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;If you have an Owon HDS200 series instrument, you can follow along. It&amp;#39;s the same.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1git6meds0"&gt;3 instruments in one&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have an&amp;nbsp;[embed:ad4490ac-0ce8-4f2d-a04c-9285646d5689:232405f2-0c88-4e91-8243-0ca39e34d8c1:text=MP720783&amp;style=link&amp;farnell=3703267&amp;newark=25AK2942&amp;cpc=&amp;avnetemea=&amp;avnetema=&amp;avnetasia=&amp;comoverride=&amp;cmpoverride=&amp;AreaInteracted=rte-content&amp;bom=]. A 70 MHz 2 channel oscilloscope, a DMM and function generator in&amp;nbsp;a package that has the size and weight of a DMM. The 3 instruments can operate at the same time, but only one has the screen and buttons active at a time. You can use the function generator to serve an input test signal for your design, then use the oscilloscope and DMM to probe your design.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall look-and-feel is good. The buttons feel good and the display readability / clarity is good. Connections (except USB) are easy to get at. And there&amp;#39;s a stable stand (if you dare to open it beyond the scary click position). I prefer to use the stand, because the reading angle is mediocre.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall first impressions are good, for all 3 modes. Using the instrument as a basic scope, generator or DMM is easy and intuitive. You can learn this in minutes, if you have previous experience.&lt;br /&gt;Beyond that point, the interface gets more complex. The options are logical, not annoying and comparable to what other advanced instruments do. But at this point, the instrument is not as intuitive&amp;nbsp;as a well designed bench instrument.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Being&amp;nbsp;handheld, the instrument has an options that some bench instrument don&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;offer: (safe) isolation. The DMM is fully isolated,&amp;nbsp;as expected. But also the oscilloscope and function generator aren&amp;#39;t ground referenced. This can be an asset.&lt;br /&gt;Be aware though, that the generator output and oscilloscope channel 1 + 2 grounds are common. And that both are also common with the USB connector shield.&amp;nbsp;The instrument gives you safe options (CAT II) to do isolated probing. But you have to bring your brains to the party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20230115_5F00_211152.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the box:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;an x1/x10 probe (with the usual accessories) and 2 BNC-to-crocodile probes.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;rechargeable batteries&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;USB cable for charging and&amp;nbsp;interfacing, wall wart&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DMM probes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;a pouch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;manuals, software&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1gmrd7vbi0"&gt;Oscilloscope&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is the only relevant section you should care about. You&amp;#39;d get this instrument for its oscilloscope functions.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Two channel, 70 MHz in my case&amp;nbsp;- there is a 40 MHz version too. The usual channel options are available:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;probe x1&amp;nbsp;-&amp;gt; x10000&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AC / DC coupled, GND&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;bandwidth 20 MHz / full&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;time base from 10 ns to 500 s&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;10 mV to 10 V / div&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sample and Peak Detect mode&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X/Y&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Measure&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;7 measures (6 visible at a time across 2 channels), and a hardware counter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;cursors (CH1&amp;nbsp;or CH2 vertical,&amp;nbsp;or time)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trigger&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;auto, normal, manual triggering and force&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;rising / falling edge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AC / DC coupled&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Varia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sample depth (4K / 8K)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;store wave form or screen print&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;auto&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/IMAGE1.BMP" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall look, feel and use is easy. You get a common signal on the display as fast as you would with a bench instrument. Scaling and moving X and Y are a bit more involved.&lt;br /&gt; It gets harder (compared to a bench instrument) when you want to zoom in to a part of a captured wave, or trigger on more advanced scenarios (there&amp;#39;s no hold/delay or external trigger). The functions I use in my day-to-day probing are available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Signals are clear on the display. The annotations on the screen are easy to read. Refresh rate OK.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1gmrd85621"&gt;Function Generator&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This module is&amp;nbsp;not available on all models. It has the usual signals: sinus, square, ramp. Up to 25 MHz for sinus, in the low MHz for the other waves. There&amp;#39;s also a set of popular signals, called arbitrary.&amp;nbsp;They are predefined, so that name is a bit odd.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s one BNC output. You can set frequency, amplitude (+- 10 mV to 2.5 Vp/p), offset and impedance. The +- 2.5 V includes any DC offset applied. For some waveforms, there&amp;#39;s a symmetry setting. It sets the duty cycle for pulse waves and skews the ramps for triangle wave. The rise / fall time of the pulse wave can be set too. The ground is shared with the oscilloscope and the USB connector.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Experience: It works. Definitely useable when you need a permanent test signal. The user interface of this module&amp;nbsp;has seen less love than the scope.&amp;nbsp;I don&amp;#39;t see me using this on a regular base, except if I need one of the base waves quickly.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Arbitrary means that something is not predefined. This instrument says that it has arbitrary waveforms, but the ones served in that section are a known set of predefined waveforms. Your opinion may differ, but I would not call a fixed set of predefined waveforms arbitrary.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did not find an option in this instrument, under the arbitrary waveform menu, to define arbitrary waveforms.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1gmrd8a492"&gt;DMM&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This option is available on all instruments of the series. A fully isolated DMM. The ground is not shared with scope, generator or USB.&amp;nbsp;Specs are&amp;nbsp;good, not spectacular. The 20000 count is the spec that stands out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;t&amp;#39;s not difficult to use, but the user interface is different from how a DMM normally behaves.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;There are also quirks e.g.:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;how auto / manual behaves in different modes,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;that it displays intermediate / way-off measurement values while&amp;nbsp;it stabilises, without showing it&amp;#39;s still stabilising (other meters show ---- or the likes)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The diode mode is good. I like the speed and latch of the continuity buzzer: just the right speed and stability to scratch over an IC and have beeps when there&amp;#39;s contact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Experience: works and will do the job. I do not like working with it though, because the interface is too different from what DMMs do. I believe this could be solved by having a UI engineer have a go at it.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1goedgpv90"&gt;Summary / verdict&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a good product. The oscilloscope is a winner. An instrument that can have a main spot on the desk and in the toolbox.&amp;nbsp;The two other options are useful, but I would never buy a separate handheld waveform generator or DMM that&amp;nbsp;operates like these two options.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The unit sits good on the table, and using it with the probes is easy. A little bit too wide/rectangular for my hands to hold&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;a long time, but doable. The screen is clear inside and outside. A bit glary though, and scratch-prone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;end advice: Get it for the oscilloscope functionality. Take advantage of the two other options, but don&amp;#39;t let them influence your purchase.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/search?q=*#serptag=mp720783&amp;amp;serpauthor=17018&amp;amp;serpsort=date%20desc"&gt;link to all posts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: first impressions: multicomp PRO handheld oscilloscope</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/237610?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 11:03:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:19440ab1-19ed-47ad-979c-38c136d1905f</guid><dc:creator>Jan Cumps</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/237610?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/52325/first-impressions-multicomp-pro-handheld-oscilloscope/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;One advantage of this&amp;nbsp;model is that you can use the function generator and oscilloscope at the same time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;set up the function generator and switch on the output&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;switch to the oscilloscope and use it&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;You can switch between the two user interfaces with the Mode button&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this action photo: the device generates an input signal for a &lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/open-source-hardware/b/blog/posts/discrete-difference-amplifier---ac-analysis-gain-and-bandwidth" data-e14adj="t"&gt;differential amplifier.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;The oscilloscope is used to monitor in- and output.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;the function generator is set to sinus, 1 kHz, 100 mVpp&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;scope channel&amp;nbsp;1&amp;nbsp;measures that input&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;scope channel 2 measures the output.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt="image" style="max-height:543px;max-width:499px;" height="543" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/998x1086/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20260731_5F00_124601.jpg" width="499"  /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It &amp;#39;ll often be easier to have a separate bench size generator and oscilloscope. In particular when you regularly want to&amp;nbsp; change the signal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But this option has advantages too. Tiny footprint, can be used in the field. And&amp;nbsp;isolated from other grounds&amp;nbsp;when desired.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>MULTICOMP PRO MP750065 Function Generator - 1st impressions</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/50744?ContentTypeID=0</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:24:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:45c1ce98-4976-4b9f-b626-2c60bf5049ab</guid><dc:creator>Jan Cumps</dc:creator><slash:comments>34</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/50744?ContentTypeID=0</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50744/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---1st-impressions/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Since yesterday, I have a&amp;nbsp;[embed:ad4490ac-0ce8-4f2d-a04c-9285646d5689:5398a281-4fab-4270-b8eb-55b46af15ece:text=MP750065&amp;style=link&amp;farnell=3130266&amp;newark=&amp;comoverride=&amp;AreaInteracted=rte-content&amp;cpc=&amp;avnetemea=&amp;avnetema=&amp;avnetasia=&amp;bom=]&amp;nbsp;function generator and counter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/front-ld.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Specs:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;DC&amp;nbsp;to 5 MHz&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1 &amp;micro;Hz resolution&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;5 Vpp in 50&amp;Omega; (10 Vpp in high impedance)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sine, pulse and flank (triangle)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;variable duty cycle for pulse. For the other two waveforms this function changes the&amp;nbsp;symmetry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sweep linear and Log, start, end and speed are configurable&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AM and FM modulation, with external input&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sync output, can be used to trigger an oscilloscope while sweeping&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;arbitrary waveforms, 20 preloaded. 20 custom waves can be stored&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;power output that can drive 4W, with a 200 kHz upper limit.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;counter up to 100 MHz&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;USB, remote software&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unexpected specs:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;it&amp;#39;s SCPI programmable. This is not mentioned on the e14 shops, but a great feature&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;the OEM is UNI-T. This device is&amp;nbsp;the twin of the UTG900C-II&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1ft030qjk0"&gt;First Use&amp;nbsp;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The basic functionality is easy to use: switching the traditional wave forms, frequency, amplitude. Even duty cycle.&lt;br /&gt;I got started with the instrument in minutes. It shows a default waveform when switching the device and output on. A 1 kHz,&amp;nbsp;100 mVpp (in 50&amp;Omega;) sine wave.&lt;br /&gt;Because the popular parameters can be set with function&amp;nbsp;keys, altering that form just works as you&amp;#39;d expect it to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A few other functions, such as the output impedance switch from high to&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;50&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;Omega; were&amp;nbsp;less intuitive, but I found how to do that without reading the manual too.&lt;br /&gt;Once you go to the more advanced functions, like sweep setup,&amp;nbsp;you&amp;#39;ll need the manual the first few times.&amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s not difficult, but they require that you know the steps.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t used the arbitrary functionality or the counter yet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1 id="mcetoc_1ft03knhn1"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Teardown&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(I did a more detailed teardown in a &lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/51601/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---repair-and-more-teardown"&gt;later post&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I took a look inside. Mainly two&amp;nbsp;sections: power supply at the back, Instrument and user interface up front. The middle of the box is empty.&lt;br /&gt;To remove front and back, you&amp;nbsp;pull the baby bumpers on both sides. There&amp;#39;s a screw under each of them. The connection point of the bumpers is near the end. Releasing and re-fixing them is easy and requires little force.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_112708.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;You can then carefully pull both ends of the instrument from the housing. If you disconnect a few cables, you can remove them fully. I haven&amp;#39;t done that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Here are a few photos of the PSU at the back:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113542.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113603.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;hellip; and some of the instrument side. Spot the ARM and FPGA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113825.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113830.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113830_5F00_2.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The next one is unsharp. I added it because it gives a good impression of the front panel&amp;#39;s backside.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_113958.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Finally, a peek inside the box:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" alt=" " src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/20220228_5F00_114024.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the things I learned while peeking inside, is that the PCB had a type number mechanism typically used by UNI-T.&lt;br /&gt;Knowing that MULTICOMP PRO uses OEMs, I went to look online to find the matching model. It&amp;#39;s the UTG9000C-II.&lt;br /&gt;It has the identical looks, specs and user documentation. But also&amp;nbsp;a &lt;a href="https://instruments.uni-trend.com/static/upload/file/20210910/UTG9000C-II%20Programming%20Manual.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;programmer&amp;#39;s guide&lt;/a&gt; that&amp;#39;s not available on AVNET&amp;#39;s shops.&lt;br /&gt;There I found that this device should be SCPI controllable. I&amp;#39;ll test this out with LabVIEW at a later time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;edit after investigation: it is LabVIEW programmable - but not your typical NI-VISA and SCPI approach. It automates well though.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;[View:https://youtu.be/19Hv33z5KmQ:640:360]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for reading.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Related blog:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50753/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt1-sdk-demo"&gt;Programming Pt1: SDK Demo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50758/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt2-labview-tryout-a"&gt;Programming Pt2: LabVIEW tryout (a)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50759/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt3-labview-tryout-b"&gt;Programming Pt3: LabVIEW tryout (b)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50761/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt4-labview-driver-lib-init-block"&gt;Programming Pt4: LabVIEW Driver Lib Init block&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50763/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt5-labview-driver-lib-read-write-and-close-blocks"&gt;Programming Pt5: LabVIEW Driver Lib Read, Write and Close blocks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50764/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---programming-pt6-labview-driver-lib-high-level-functional-blocks"&gt;Programming Pt6: LabVIEW Driver Lib: High Level Functional blocks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/51601/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---repair-and-more-teardown"&gt;Repair and teardown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/table&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: MULTICOMP PRO MP750065 Function Generator - 1st impressions</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/236291?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 13:41:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:17dfb4d4-a108-4ca7-a7d9-696b3ca3c3e7</guid><dc:creator>Jan Cumps</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/236291?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50744/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---1st-impressions/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/members/microknight"&gt;microknight&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;if you share your settings, I&amp;#39;ll see if I can replicate it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: MULTICOMP PRO MP750065 Function Generator - 1st impressions</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/236282?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 12:22:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:81e5ce4c-fa28-4d2a-aa3e-316819f74fc8</guid><dc:creator>shabaz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/236282?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50744/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---1st-impressions/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, could that be due to delay from your circuitry? Or are you observing the input of the circuit (i.e. function gen output) directly too?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: MULTICOMP PRO MP750065 Function Generator - 1st impressions</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/236281?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 12:10:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:f8380451-7bbc-4d9f-8610-da7b9df0dc21</guid><dc:creator>microknight</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/236281?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/50744/multicomp-pro-mp750065-function-generator---1st-impressions/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I watched your reviews a few years ago, just before I got mine. I&amp;#39;ve used the sweep function fairly often, but today I&amp;#39;ve been trying to use the sync output. I&amp;#39;m just capturing the output of an audio circuit sweeping from 300 to 6K, so not very taxing. However, I&amp;#39;m finding that the sync occurs about 2.5mS early and you get the last few cycle of the previous sweep after the trigger. Is there some setting I&amp;#39;m missing. Obviously I can adjust my scope trigger delay, but it doesn&amp;#39;t seem right to have to do this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/56405?ContentTypeID=0</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 10:52:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:179b573f-b2e0-4b27-ad02-9f4b5eca202a</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>21</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/56405?ContentTypeID=0</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello all,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m toying (pun intended) with ideas in the context of a future challenge and while I&amp;#39;m not settled on what the thing should do, I&amp;#39;m decided on using the&amp;nbsp;MAX32666FTHR2 board that I was gifted with a couple of years back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The &amp;quot;Light Up Your Life Challenge&amp;quot; gave me a push to finally use the 8*8 WS2812B matrix that I once bought because it looked nice and was not expensive, and so I&amp;#39;m trying to hook it up to the board.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I can&amp;#39;t seem to get the proper output signal to send to the LEDs, I decided to observe what&amp;#39;s coming out of the MAX32666 pins.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My first experiment was to use a continuous timer, whose clock is half the system clock (96MHz) and which toggles the output pin every time the counter reaches the comparison value. Here is what I get with two relatively high values:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763030404271v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763030412055v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The signal should be a nice square wave, it does not look that clean, but I know there&amp;#39;s always some rise and fall time coming into play.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But things get worse when the comparison value for the timer is even lower, like here with 3:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763030505921v3.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After further fiddling with the various peripherals on the MCU, I was able to output the 96MHz clock signal, and this is what I get:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763030564679v4.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had to stop the oscilloscope because it was not able to see a proper trigger level, let alone compute the frequency from such small signal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, if I read the graph properly, there&amp;#39;s about 10ns between two peaks, which is consistent with a 96MHz frequency for the signal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, what I&amp;#39;m really wondering about is the fact that the faster the signal, the more distorted I observe it, to the point where it won&amp;#39;t even reach full voltage swing between 0V and 3.3V.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Out the top of my head, I can see three reasons for these results:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reaching the limits of the MAX32666 pin switching capabilities&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reaching the limits of what the oscilloscope can see&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reaching the limits of my own stupidity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For point 1, I tried looking for rise and fall time on output pins in the electrical characteristics for the MAX32666 but could not find anything related to this in the (somewhat confusing) datasheet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For point 2, the DSO is said to be &amp;quot;100MHz&amp;quot; so as 96 is lower than 100, it should be fine. But maybe Shannon law should be taken into account and 100/2 being lower than 96, the results are expected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For point 3, well, it could come on top of the two other points, and so I won&amp;#39;t rule it out just yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know there is a &amp;quot;Oscilloscope 101&amp;quot; webinar in the works which might actually answer those questions just fine. If that&amp;#39;s the case, I&amp;#39;d gladly wait for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your attention.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231865?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 19:43:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:7aeca460-b932-4e77-98ca-d2067da726fb</guid><dc:creator>Robert Peter Oakes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231865?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;one thing I did not see being mentioned is about the scope (And probes). Bandwidth of 100Mhz will be 3db down already but the reference for this is a sine wave, not a square wave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A square wave is made up of &lt;mark class="HxTRcb" data-processed="true"&gt;an infinite series of odd-numbered harmonics, including the fundamental frequency&lt;/mark&gt;. For an ideal square wave, these harmonics are all in phase, with the amplitude of each successive harmonic decreasing by an amount inversely proportional to its harmonic number&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so if the square wave is 96Mhz then you will also have signals of&amp;nbsp; 288Mhz, 480Mhz and that&amp;#39;s just 3rd and 5h harmonic there are a lot more to get a good square wave but as the scope is max 100Mhz with 3db down on a sine wave then these harmonics needed to shape the wave form are long gone into oblivion, hence you seeing more and more like a sign wave (Triangle ish in your case). even at the much lower frequencies you will see a distorted square wave due to harmonics being filtered . even a 30Mhz signal will have 3rd and 5th harmonics at or beyond the scopes bandwidth 30Mhz primary, 90Mhz 3rd harmonic and 150Mhz 5th harmonic. I hope this help you understand more of what your seeing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231859?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 11:28:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:4aa9493d-6ae9-40ba-8f7f-41fdb4d1280e</guid><dc:creator>jc2048</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231859?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I quite often improvise &amp;#39;springy clips&amp;#39;, like this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt="image" style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;"  src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/probing_2D00_obones.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That way, you can solder them, rather than hold the probe with one hand whilst working the controls with the other, though in this case it&amp;#39;s quite precarious the way that I just have the tip touching the blob of solder (don&amp;#39;t do that in the middle of a valuable board that you don&amp;#39;t want to damage). The component between the blobs of solder is the SMD load resistor that I&amp;#39;m trying to probe as cleanly as possible. Sometimes, if I can be bothered, I&amp;#39;ll do a little spiral for the probe tip to sit in which can also be soldered in place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My improvised ground clip was a lead offcut from a component (some old, cheap, but actually very good LEDs) and is plated steel rather than copper - copper is too soft and won&amp;#39;t hold it&amp;#39;s shape gripping the ground sleeve of the probe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want to see what I was doing with it, it&amp;#39;s in the blog below; re-reading that, it&amp;#39;s a right mess - I haven&amp;#39;t explained what I was doing at all well. And I was wrong about the risetime. That was done with an old 200MHz Tek 2-series scope and the x10 passive probe that came with the scope, so the risetime you see in the waveforms is actually that of the scope and not the pin drivers on the Arduino Uno, nor the output of the transformer, which are both probably beating the scope, but it does show the clean results, without ringing, you can get in a low impedance circuit where the probe isn&amp;#39;t loading it too much, and it does show how good the performance of a transmission-line pulse transformer can be, so not entirely wasted as a blog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.element14.com/members-area/b/blog/posts/experimenting-with-a-transmission-line-transformer" data-e14adj="t"&gt;https://community.element14.com/members-area/b/blog/posts/experimenting-with-a-transmission-line-transformer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231850?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 15:40:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:3d64bf31-cacd-4403-9f58-95f8b62f9c3d</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231850?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Ah!&lt;br /&gt;So that&amp;#39;s what this spring is about!&lt;br /&gt;I thought it was a spare for the spring inside the hook...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231846?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 11:56:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:e5b82afb-ff4e-41f5-af2c-376ef42accc4</guid><dc:creator>dang74</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231846?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed... and the shape change to me is more profound than the 3dB drop.&amp;nbsp; You first notice it in the edges... rather than a nice clean edge they become sine like.&amp;nbsp; And although mathematically they have nothing to do with triangles, to me, in terms of appearance, they do look like imperfect triangular waves... and ultimately when you get really close to the limit, they become miniscule sinewaves.&amp;nbsp; If the signal being probed was a pure sine wave I suppose the amplitude would be 70.7% at the bandwidth limit... but since, as you pointed out, that a square wave is composed of even higher frequency components, the amplitude will be much less than 70.7%.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231844?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 09:11:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:49efef68-a652-4d8c-848b-21b58678a6a2</guid><dc:creator>Jan Cumps</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231844?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The oscilloscope has a 100 Mhz bandwidth. If you probe a 100 MHz square wave signal with it, you &amp;#39;ll notice a few things - even with perfect probing techniques&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The signal root wave (a 96 MHz sinus) level will be 3 dB down&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The rest of the square wave is made up of frequencies above the scope&amp;#39;s upper bandwidth level. You will not get those.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So in general: if you use the x10 mode, you&amp;#39;ll get an attenuated sinus-ish result at best.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231835?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 22:31:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:131191e6-00b4-43cf-8d80-86969e026916</guid><dc:creator>Gough Lui</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231835?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah. That&amp;#39;s a bad idea. Probe loading is hefty at 1x. You should be using 10:1 for anything above around 8MHz in my experience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Gough&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231834?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 22:30:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:1e4efe51-14b8-4c19-a92a-a113d2b050a2</guid><dc:creator>Gough Lui</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231834?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Most oscilloscope probe bags have accessories including the spring ground - it should be fitted by removing the ground clip lead, removing the &amp;quot;hook&amp;quot; attachment and pushing over the coaxial ground contact collar which is around the probe tip as shown in the image at this link:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a id="" href="https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/136123/how-do-you-attach-an-oscilloscope-ground-spring" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank" data-e14adj="t"&gt;https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/136123/how-do-you-attach-an-oscilloscope-ground-spring&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Gough&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231831?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 16:57:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:edc916ec-1f7b-4db2-8ad6-74c7920b3d1b</guid><dc:creator>misaz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231831?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;MAX32666FTHR is part number (and name) of board. MCU part number is&amp;nbsp;MAX32666GXMBL+. Schematics is in board datasheet. On board website, there are even gerbers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231829?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 16:09:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:77188575-e09d-4a08-90df-d42be6182505</guid><dc:creator>hlipka</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231829?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I took the&amp;nbsp;MAX32666FTHR for a part number, not the board name :-(&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Short calculation (well, I used&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://calculator.academy/impedance-calculator-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank" data-e14adj="t"&gt;calculator.academy/.../&lt;/a&gt; ): at 96MHz, a capacitance of 10pF results in an effective impedance of 166Ohm. 100pF (which very well happens when your probe is in 1:1 mode) will be about 16Ohm. 8mA through 16Ohm are about 130mV.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231828?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:53:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:73dacf73-5028-42c6-8abd-614e8a9df650</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231828?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The scope is a Multicomp Pro MP720012&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The board, I mentioned it in the original message, it&amp;#39;s the MAX32666FTHR&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 96MHz oscillator is internal to the MAX32666 so you can only see it if you output it on one of its GPIO pin, which I did via the Audio subsystem bit clock configuration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231827?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:48:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:e7d0ace1-7cb4-4738-a67a-f36f9bf7d202</guid><dc:creator>hlipka</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231827?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Some other question that come to my mind:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- you never mention what scope you are using (from the probes it seems a Tektronix). This should not matter, but might give hints into what else could go wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- you also do not mention what that board is you are using. Is there a schematic for it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- you mention that you were &amp;#39;able to output the 96MHz clock signal&amp;#39; - this hints at that this is not the actual oscillator, but another pin at the&amp;nbsp;MAX32666, right? Are you _sure_ that there is nothing else connected to that pin? How do you probe to that pin? At 96MHz even moderate resistors or capacitors can wreak havoc with your signal...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231826?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:36:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:bfe70a46-abcf-4284-9b17-dcfd4ea47ef4</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231826?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The limit is set at &amp;quot;full band&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231825?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:20:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:418458c1-79e8-4a44-a6a1-36ba62b7a89f</guid><dc:creator>hlipka</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231825?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Another thing to look for: did you enable a bandwidth limit on the scope input? For most scopes that would be 20MHz.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231823?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 14:10:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:9425c110-4680-4c7b-967d-5cc7adba047a</guid><dc:creator>michaelkellett</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231823?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Try on the x10 setting - expect much lower input capacity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Cal Test cheapo 100MHz 10:1/1:1 probe sold by Farnell claims 90pf on 1:1, 16pF on 10:1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MK&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231822?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 13:10:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:932b4f0f-49ae-465d-88ac-bd10302de1f8</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231822?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;It is switchable and I&amp;#39;m using it on the x1 setting&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231821?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 12:07:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:8e23e825-b525-4953-b6a0-a5f26e42dc20</guid><dc:creator>michaelkellett</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231821?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it a switchable probe, and if so are you using it on x1 or x10.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MK&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231819?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:49:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:d57f6cfe-8c12-41b0-8730-e8815c2601f5</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231819?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the suggestion, I was under the impression this only applied if I was driving &amp;quot;power hungry&amp;quot; things like LEDs.&lt;br /&gt;I did change the setting from 00 to 11 and this is what I now get:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt="image" style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763117172720v1.png"  /&gt;&lt;img loading="lazy" alt="image" style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763117177600v2.png"  /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The difference is not much but it is indeed cleaner with more &amp;quot;swing&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also tried placing the scope in AC mode for CH1 along with 100 millivolts per division to scope the 96MHz signal and this is what I got:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img loading="lazy" alt="image" style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763117278907v3.png"  /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, clearly, the 96MHz is here on the pin, it&amp;#39;s just that I don&amp;#39;t seem to have the proper equipment to measure the full voltage swing. That does not surprise me as I&amp;#39;m near the limits of the scope, but at least I learned quite a few things along the way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Observing 96MHz clock signal and its divisions leads to "strange" results</title><link>https://community.element14.com/thread/231818?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:45:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">93d5dcb4-84c2-446f-b2cb-99731719e767:cb00885e-4993-4c94-9d0b-9ebf13f590ec</guid><dc:creator>obones</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>https://community.element14.com/thread/231818?ContentTypeID=1</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://community.element14.com/technologies/test-and-measurement/f/forum/56405/observing-96mhz-clock-signal-and-its-divisions-leads-to-strange-results/rss?ContentTypeId=0</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your reply, here are some answers to your questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The probes are the T5100 probes that came with the oscilloscope and are rated for 100MHz. Sadly, the manual does not have the graph you mentioned, only a voltage derating according to frequency graph.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As to the &amp;quot;ground clip&amp;quot;, I believe you mean the alligator clip small lead that attaches just below the guard as can bee seen here ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="image" style="max-height:360px;max-width:640px;" src="https://community.element14.com/resized-image/__size/1280x720/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/13/pastedimage1763116900616v1.jpeg"  /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If that&amp;#39;s the thing, well, I did not hook it up to get the pictures above, and the situation did not change when I clawed it to a GND pin on the demo board.&lt;br /&gt;I searched for the term &amp;quot;spring ground&amp;quot; and saw various depictions of hand made metal springs that fit to the tip of the probe, but I can&amp;#39;t seem to figure out if this would be applicable here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>