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How should Ben continue building his automatic can crusher? Post your idea + you might get a free Ben Heck t-shirt!

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bluescreen over 15 years ago
Ben Heck needs your help! In the latest episode he explores different ways to build a solenoid-powered automatic can crusher. They're looking for your suggestions on different ways to build and power the can crusher. Post your suggestions here for a chance to win a Ben Heck Show t-shirt! Ten submissions will be randomly selected after Oct. 24.
 
Just post a reply to this thread with your ideas, and you'll be automatically enrolled in the t-shirt giveaway.
 
We're looking forward to your suggestions!
 
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  • Ashen
    Ashen over 15 years ago +1
    We have built these before at my work in our spare time using old pnumatic air cylinders. 50lbs of air pressure is sufficent to crush even a large beer can. Get a cheapo compressor at lowes or use a cheap…
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago +1
    This one is easy. Some college friends and I built a very effective can crusher in college to solve our large empty beer can problem. We simply used a pneumatic cylinder with a large washer attached to…
  • Viperforce30
    Viperforce30 over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    I know one thing that helps when crushing a can is too slightly crease the sides of the can before hand. Maybe make the cylinder that holds the cans have a bar smack the sides before crushing the can.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    I don't understand why the solenoid powered version was rigged like it was.  It seems like it the idea would have worked better if the can was pushed against instead of being pulled against the solenoid.  Also, having to pierce a hole through the can was a little ridiculous.

     

    Maybe have two solenoids opposite each other that fire in unison at a can in the middle.  Obviously taking care to actually have it mounted on something and have a shield of sort in place to prevent the cans from firing off like a pinball.

     

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    0 enrico.migchels over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Ben's attempt with the capacitor bank was interesting, but it missed the finishing touch. He should have charged some 10mF/450V elcaps, those would have done the trick. You can not a mechanical activation switch anymore with those large currents, a GTO is better in it's place. In all a electromagnetic crusher would be expensive and lethal (if misused). The mechanical approach is far the best.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Probably because it was just quicker and easier than installing a stop plate.  I don't think they wanted the rod shooting across the room if they underestimated its power.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    Keep it small. Use a screw drive and then a good size motor to drive the can to crushed. imageimage

    Can use gearing or a chain to ensure no slippage. Stop the motor when movement stops or when the motor current goes high. Then a simple dc motor can be used whereby polarity in one direction crushes. Polarity in the other retracts. Simple circuitry can sense when the piston stops or motor current rises. This trips the polarity on the motor and starts the retraction of the piston. When the piston returns back to a home position, a switch is tripped and the motor polarity is again reversed, but stops the cycle.

     

    A switch placed where the can is crushed can be used to start the system. Thus becoming an automatic system overall.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    Try this at home! Stand on a can (with one foot, balancing) and then carefully reach down and lightly tap the sides with your finger - kerblam flat. So as a machine you should put about 100lbs of pressure on the ends, how ever you like, and then the solenoid can ping the sides. May or may not be the most efficient, but would be the most awesome : ). Ok, excluding the laser powered flamethrower thing.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    My good friend has a can crusher just like this one:  Its called the "Can Ram".

    http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Industrial-Tools-Automatic-Crusher/dp/B0000AXDY9/ref=pd_sim_k_2

    http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/16880_lg.jpg

     

    It's a very clever design, and it works well.  The cans get loaded into the hopper, are crushed, and fall out the bottom.

     

    Ben should automate this with a motor that actuates the lever arm sort of like a piston engine.  Like stated in the episode, he should add a counter for cans crushed, or weight of the total crushed cans.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    What if you used two belts to crush the can instead of stomping on each can.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    One cheap, yet powerful motor I have used are CIM motors. We use them in FIRST robotics to drive 130lb robots around like they weighed nothing. They are the size of a soda can, cheap as can be($28), and have an incredible amount of torque. Add on an inline gearbox, and itll be nearly unstoppable. (I believe a 10:1 ratio has the power to lift 150lbs from 1.5 ft away) CIM Motor

     

    With this motor, you could go with something to the sort of the locomotive design you have, but you aren't limited to just that. Remember, you can use a motor, without having the motor actually crushing the can. Think of the plunger for a pinball machine. It is spring loaded. Now replace those springs with garage door springs, or lots of surgical tubing. If you have the right bits for your router, you can cut a cam that will be rotated by the cim motor. this can let you easily retract the plunger, and rapidly release it, making for a fast-action can crusher. This video is a perfect example of what can be done with this concept:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Sfc7erbtuoE

     

    Also, I'd love to come over and help you out, Ben! If you like my ideas, instead of a t-shirt maybe you could send me a plane ticket to come on down!

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    Maybe the cans could be crushed a custom built vaccum?

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    try mixing the first idea (the solenoid powered) and twisting

     

    1- make some thing to catch the can from both sides

    2- then as what you first tried do it the same way, but with ading some very fast motor to spin the can while crushing

    by that you get tow forces acting, the pushing and the spining

    just to check how effecitvive this way is

    try it by your hand, twist a can you'll find it crushing by it self, then stop twisting and crush, it will be so easy, and crush to a smaller size

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