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wallarug
wallarug over 11 years ago

Hey guys,

 

I am trying to expand the number of outputs on a board that I built 6 months ago that controls high current LED strips but am unsure if the following would work. Could someone please let me know if what I am trying to do in the following schematic will even work??

 

Thanks is advance.

 

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PS: I am aware of the 'negative logic' on the march 2014 version.

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago

    This has been a really informative and interesting read from my perspective.

     

    In other news:

    The RGB 5050 LED Strips arrived today and I have been testing them out with the supplied IR controller.  One thing I have noticed with these strips is the amount of heat that they produce, which is surprisingly high.  I plugged in 5 meters of them for about 5 minutes and they became very warm (but not blazingly hot).  I then decided to take some measurements with a thermometer.

     

    With a five meter strips (one roll) it took 120 seconds for the temperature to rise 4.0 degrees above room temp.  Is this normal?

     

    Then I cut the strip into two 2.5 meter lengths to see if the current was a source of all the heat.  I ran the 2.5m strip for 12 minutes on the "fade" setting and the temp stabilised at 3.5 degrees above room temp.  When I changed the setting to "White ON 100%" (all RGB 100%) the heat built up very quickly with the temp rising by 0.2 degrees every 10 seconds until I switched them off after 5 minutes.  At that time they were 8-9 degrees above room temp and still rising.

     

    Is this sort of heat normal for RGB led strips? and If so, will running smaller lengths of them lower their operating temp? (Less current = less heat)

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    0 mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    Wallarug

    This has been a really informative and interesting read from my perspective.

    It is great that are wanting to extend your knowledge and aren't afraid to ask questions.

    (BTW the only dumb question is the one not asked)

     

    I have a 5050 strip and never really did the temperature check.

     

    One question that might help you answer your own question.

    • How many watts is the strip drawing.?
    • How many watts is each lamp drawing (the above divided by the number of lamps)

     

    There are some formula for heat transfer into air (I recall one blog in Forget Me Not) and area plays a very big part of that equation.

     

    Mark

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Each strip is drawing the following:

    • 5m draws (from what I have read online): 72W (6A @ 12V)
    • 2.5m draws 36W (half above)
    • Each 5050 package draws 20mA where there is 3 LEDs in each 5050 package
    • For every meter of strip there are 60 * 5050 packages which SHOULD equal 1.2A / meter

    At least that's what I'm told, I have not measured the actual current usage yet on the RGB strips.  However I did measure the current used on some Warm White LED strips which use the same 5050 package but with 3 single coloured LEDs.  I measured a current of 0.56A off a 12V battery bank on an approximately 1 meter long strip ( don't know how long it actually is because I didn't measure it. )

     

    I shall investigate this further tomorrow with more rigorous and methodical testing.

     

    Source:  https://learn.adafruit.com/rgb-led-strips/current-draw

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    0 mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    They have 3 5050 packages in series to form a segment.

     

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    There are 20 segments/metre on your 60*5050 so it works out at 1.2A/meter

    (60mA * 20 = 1200mA/m)

     

    So each 5050 is producing 60mA * 4v = 0.25 watts

    Michael did a very good writeup about thermal efficiency

    http://www.element14.com/community/community/design-challenges/forget-me-not/blog/2014/09/09/episode-10-forget-me-not-its-so-hot

     

    Unfortunately none of the LED specs I've found have the thermal efficiency specified.

    Some of the 5050 Leds can run to +85C some to 100C, and some derate the maximum current above 25Deg C ambient.

     

    One of the things that could be worth checking is your 12v supply.

    Is it actually 12v .?

     

     

     

     

    Here is a very interesting observation from a writer regarding some LED lights.

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/LED-Lamps-using-5050-LED-chips-/10000000177064387/g.html

     

    Mark

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