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Would You Be Interested in Roadtesting KiCad EDA?

rscasny
rscasny over 3 years ago

KiCad has a following on the element14 Community, so we figured it would be a good thing to roadtest. It's a little different than what we usually roadtest, so we have a few questions. KiCad is free, so we were wondering what the potential roadtesters would like to see in the roadtest kit. There was a suggestion for the roadtesters to design a Raspberry Pi HAT. But we could also use a Pi/Ardunio library or even someone's own design. 

I have some polls below. I'd appreciate you voting. Thanks.


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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 3 years ago in reply to ggabe

    Digi-Key is a competitor of element14.

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  • ggabe
    ggabe over 3 years ago in reply to anniel747

    Depends who is funding - Newark or the KiCad services corp? If there's a conflict, then would happily see OshPark.

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 3 years ago in reply to ggabe

    Isn't Digi-Key a competitor?

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  • ggabe
    ggabe over 3 years ago

    A parts shopping cart and PCB fab coupon would be the most motivating. Digi-Key can potentially provide both.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to geralds
    geralds said:
    is KiCaD a clone of Cadsoft's EAGLE

    No.

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  • geralds
    geralds over 3 years ago

    Hi,

    If I can be a part of this roadtest than I will spend the board, the software I have it.

    But a test equipment (e.g. Farnell No: 2723153, or 3889090) would be fine for me for testing this developed board.

    I have KiCaD as well the EAGLE - Fusion360 (last few years I was one of the raodtesters of the EAGLE when it came out as version 8.0)

    Actual is the version 9.6.2; but EAGLE itself will no longer supported - effective June 7, 2026; it will than called as Fusion 360 Electronics.

    https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/blog/future-of-autodesk-eagle-fusion-360-electronics/?mktvar002=5825936031&utm_medium=product&utm_source=ipm&utm_campaign=5825936dmfusion-360-and-eagle---unification-fy24&utm_id=5825936031

    So I can fine compare the two EDA tools.

    Hhmmm? Thinking As far as I remember, but ok, I could be wrong, but, is KiCaD a clone of Cadsoft's EAGLE, isn't it? hhmmm??

    Best Regards

    Gerald

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  • colporteur
    colporteur over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Friggin amazing JC!

    Can I safely assume it will work with the latest version of KiCad?

    I was going to going to ask what operating system it is supported in but realize a pip load makes it O/S independent. YES!

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 3 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    KiCaD
    kIcAd

    ... thanks Slight smile

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  • misaz
    misaz over 3 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I agree with all that you wrote. PCB design is naturaly multi-stage process and while we are focusing on design stage (KiCad) we simply cannot remove other steps (ordering, manufacturing, assembly) from this process and no matter of activity form factor, it will always influence the KiCad review somehow except the case that someone just want to use KiCad and do not build the PCB designed in it.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago in reply to misaz

    I suspect Design Challenges are intensive work, whereas Project14 is a lot lighter touch to support. It's a lot of effort to ship low-cost boards, so it might be better for any applicant to just swallow the cost themselves, since it's not a lot even for 4-layer, or an alu PCB. The few times I've had to ship stuff to customers, it's always been stressful, so anything that reduces that could be attractive I reckon.

    A RoadTest has the benefit that the applicant may focus more on the subject (KiCad), whereas many Design Challenges cover all sorts of other stuff over several months, like PCB assembly and construction, which, while interesting, wouldn't help someone interested in knowing about KiCad (unless there were errors in what was desired compared to what KiCad generated).

    KiCad is great for hobbyists and perhaps small and medium sized businesses, but does not have the higher-end enterprise-friendly features, so I don't think it competes with Cadence and similar CAD. Altium is a weird one, since it is more for small and medium-sized orgs from what I can tell, since CircuitStudio was their half-hearted (and not well disguised) effort encourage users to full Altium through lack of CircuitStudio support and updates, which was disingenuous I feel. I'll always have a soft spot for EAGLE since I spent so much time with it, and really like it, but wouldn't go back. There are other CAD packages but it's clear that the decent manufacturers have abandoned the small user and hobbyist, presumably because they feel it's unnecessary. If anyone requires enterprise or extensive support then they simply expect them to pay for it, and they will give training (paid or free at their discretion).

    All the above is just a opinion, I could be totally wrong,, so please treat with a pinch of salt.

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