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RFID race timing solutions

daveob1
daveob1 over 3 years ago

I was just reading an older thread about making a RFID timer for a running race. It sounds like the technology hasn't changed that much in 7 years, but has anyone else done something similar?

My main issue (I think) is the start/finish set up. We are going to do small MTB races in the bush with the start/finish spaced about 3kms apart. Mobile reception is poor. So is there a workaround to get their staggered start time for a rider then get their finish time. We could do a workaround of set start times, but it would be easier with the tags.

It maybe as simple as loading both sets of data into a laptop program, but I haven't look at that side yet.

There are commercial solutions available but for our club its a cost issue.

Thanks

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  • BigG
    BigG over 3 years ago in reply to shabaz +2
    The dog racing application is an interesting example. I was wondered if BLE tags or beacons could be used, by checking ble signal strength (rssi) with possibly direction analytics (if using BLE 5.2 tags…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago in reply to BigG +2
    BLE would be a neat way to augment photocell. I guess antenna tech is still a way behind to provide accuracy on it's own. I've not seen the BLE location solution in action yet, but from other AoA based…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago +1
    Hi, I'm not sure it would be easier with tags. While there are tags that can be read from a distance, they don't provide accurate positioning, so some sort of break-beam type of barrier might also then…
  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 3 years ago in reply to BigG

    BLE would be a neat way to augment photocell. I guess antenna tech is still a way behind to provide accuracy on it's own. I've not seen the BLE location solution in action yet, but from other AoA based systems (in similar frequency range), they tended to home in on the position, i.e. from the first set of readings, they knew the approximate position, then from the next reading it got a bit more accurate, and eventually it would locate the beacon-type device to within a patch of a couple of feet diameter, which was still really impressive. I guess it was averaging the location from multiple readings, because of the need to get a good result from many of the antennas in the array. BLE may be much better hopefully, since it is a more recent implementation.

    Also for such sports type stuff, since the area that the measurement is required in is very defined, that could make it easier, since the array doesn't need to locate over a very large space! The timing resolution that was needed was 1/100th of a sec at a minimum (that was what the existing photocell system supported) and they would have liked to go to 1msec. These short times may be difficult, I don't know how fast the BLE solutions could provide measurements.

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 3 years ago in reply to daveob1

    A lower cost interim solution might be to consider using a pneumatic 'road tube' type sensors, similar to the type used for counting traffic on highways or for ringing bells on forecourts, coupled with a GPS receiver module.

    That would automatically log the times when a bicycle wheel passed over the start and stop lines, helping to automate the process. It would offer quite flexible installation, be quick to set up, be weatherproof and be compact to transport.

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    0 daveob1 over 3 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Never even crossed my mind even though I have used these in the past. I'll start googling now. I know the traffic counters are expensive, but the maybe smaller solutions. In fact we could even get away with infra red beam at present for what we are doing. Thanks for this.

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 3 years ago in reply to daveob1

    Perhaps try something like this ?

    DIY Traffic Counter - Road Tube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1HM3IvExJE

    Add a GPS module to give you your real time clock reference.

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  • ermawinter
    0 ermawinter 4 months ago

    This is a great discussion on RFID race timing solutions! It's exciting to see more attention on DIY and affordable alternatives for race management, especially for small to mid-sized events where commercial systems can be cost-prohibitive.

    If you're exploring ways to build or improve your own race timing setup, I highly recommend this guide: DIY Race Timing: Save Money & Manage Results. It walks through the essentials of setting up your own system while keeping costs low and results accurate—perfect for community events, charity runs, and more.

    Thanks to everyone here for sharing knowledge and experiences—this kind of open collaboration is what helps innovation thrive!

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  • daveob1
    0 daveob1 4 months ago in reply to ermawinter

    Link possibly broken?

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  • anniel747
    0 anniel747 4 months ago in reply to daveob1

    daveob1 Works here.

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