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I need a device to read multiple Analog Inputs, and write 2 analog outputs

SensoredHacker0
SensoredHacker0 3 months ago

Hello All, 
My Parent Company has been using Opto22 Groov Rios for expanding Analog IO to PLC systems. 
The issue we have with these devices is that the IO periodically freezes, maintaining the analog outputs. 
We make compression based hot water heaters, and this behaviour causes some undesired effects. 

The red box is indicating that the Analog sensors have stopped updating. 
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Anyway, we are searching for a suitable replacement. The devices operate in a control panel, 
an may be subject to electrical noise, and heat from -10F to 120F
we would really like something with at least 10 Analog inputs. 

Modbus is fine. We have some experience writing other protocols, but that is frequently tedious in

A PLC programing environment.  We need a professional device, with a Din mounted case, no bare circuit boards.
Analog outputs 0-10V output would be great.

The groov Rios do what we want, the specs match our needs. Its their failure conditions that we have a problem with. We have brought this up with
Opto22, and no solution has been presented. Its a thing that happens. No one knows why, or has a fix. its been about a 
year of dealing with this, and I'm so over it. 

If there are alternatives, I would love to hear about them.

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  • phoenixcomm
    phoenixcomm 3 months ago

    Question how many inputs do you need (a) what is there Amplitude  Vmax(b) what frequency do you want to get the info (c)

    how many devices (quantity)  do you need and would you get dirty and DIY Them? Y/N

    if you are audio range there a bunch of D mux chips

    and one more thing would you be willing to do CAN in the Box...that is to say between your box and the sensor... but then the sensor has to talk CAN but if the sensors are stupid then you could put a micro-embeded cpu  at the far end.  TI has a broad range of these beasts as they are use in automotive industry

    btw one more you could use  Semiconductor Analog Mux .~~ Cris H

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  • geralds
    geralds 3 months ago

    Hi  SensoredHacker0 

    You can use Eaton Easy E4 for example:

    https://at.farnell.com/en-AT/c/automation-process-control/process-controllers-programmers-indicators?st=eaton+easy+E4

    1) The controller (with display, just one of 3 possible modules; DC, UC, AC versions):

    https://at.farnell.com/en-AT/eaton-moeller/easy-e4-dc-12tc1/control-relay-w-display-24vdc/dp/3371899

    4 analogue inputs, 8 digital inputs, 4 digital outputs

    2) Analog expansion module:

    https://at.farnell.com/en-AT/eaton-moeller/easy-e4-dc-6ae1/analog-input-output-module-4-i/dp/3371908

    4 analogue inputs, 2 analogue outputs

    Here you need 2 modules

    3) If you want reading temp. sensors:

    https://at.farnell.com/en-AT/eaton-moeller/easy-e4-dc-4pe1/analog-input-module-4-i-p-24vdc/dp/3371912?MER=BR-MER-PDP-RECO-STM72194

    4 analogue inputs, 2 or 3 wired PTxxxx 

    At Farnell, you can find some other modules you want to combine together.

    Best Regards
    Gerald

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 3 months ago

    I didn't even Google - merely Duck, Duck went and found loads. (Google would find more but I don't use it if I don't have to)

    These look not bad:

    https://www.lucid-control.com/lucid485-serial-rs-485-analog-digital-io-module-modbus-rtu/

    I've designed such things in the past - and would be happy to do so again (commercially) but it wouldn't be worthwhile unless you use a lot of them.

    MK

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