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how did you protect your lab setup?

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps over 1 year ago

Participants, now that the experiment is reaching its end: What safety measures did you take when dealing with mains voltages?

I'm starting a road test for a mains powered Flyback design. I'm looking for advice from the players that used their "real mains" to power the experiments.

Things I have at the moment

  • formal education to deal with mains powers
  • a handheld oscilloscope that's isolated and has safe connections
  • a high-voltage differential probe
  • a bench meter that can measure 10 A AC current, and is CAT III 

Did you take other/additional safety measures?

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 1 year ago +9
    I would say, the best thing is avoiding mains entirely for the smaller power rating stuff. I use a floating DC Lab supply to run a pure sine wave inverter (300W) as my synthetic mains supply for testing…
  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 1 year ago +6
    Cover the back of the PCB with insulating tape first. Don't count on friction to hold the PCB in place. Use a power bar and place the OFF/ON switch very near you. I like scottiebabe's tape job. Remember…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 1 year ago +5
    Good questions Jan. When I worked on a mains powered transformer with associated parts: covered every potential touch point with kapton tape just in case. spaced everything out so that there was…
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    0 Gough Lui over 1 year ago

    I would say, the best thing is avoiding mains entirely for the smaller power rating stuff.

    I use a floating DC Lab supply to run a pure sine wave inverter (300W) as my synthetic mains supply for testing of smaller items. Fault currents are very limited thanks to the inverter's small power rating and blowing fuses is not likely in case of a hard fault - the inverter usually simply cycles (another benefit).

    For higher current mains stuff, I made an isolation transformer out of back to back toroidal transformers. The upside is this breaks the earth connection which means that accidental contact between device and earth won't result in a shock, but also means some modern safety features (e.g. RCDs) won't save you. The jury is usually split on this sort of thing.

    I also use a variac with my supplies to bring them up gently if necessary, feeding all power through a Tektronix PA1000 Power Analyzer just to see if anything is wrong as the voltage is coming up.

    I would suggest soldering in insulated wire for probe points, maybe screwed down into a terminal block for safer probing. Then you can use a DMM or scope probe and touch the screws or metal parts in a more convenient location. Still prefer screwing the probes down into the terminal block and not changing connections while powered on to avoid surprise smoke events.

    Use a remote power switch - I have a radio controlled power switch I can remotely turn on and off. Where nasty results are expected, I'll have my camera observe while I apply power from a distance.

    Make sure the item is sitting on a nonconducting surface ...

    - Gough

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    0 Gough Lui over 1 year ago

    I would say, the best thing is avoiding mains entirely for the smaller power rating stuff.

    I use a floating DC Lab supply to run a pure sine wave inverter (300W) as my synthetic mains supply for testing of smaller items. Fault currents are very limited thanks to the inverter's small power rating and blowing fuses is not likely in case of a hard fault - the inverter usually simply cycles (another benefit).

    For higher current mains stuff, I made an isolation transformer out of back to back toroidal transformers. The upside is this breaks the earth connection which means that accidental contact between device and earth won't result in a shock, but also means some modern safety features (e.g. RCDs) won't save you. The jury is usually split on this sort of thing.

    I also use a variac with my supplies to bring them up gently if necessary, feeding all power through a Tektronix PA1000 Power Analyzer just to see if anything is wrong as the voltage is coming up.

    I would suggest soldering in insulated wire for probe points, maybe screwed down into a terminal block for safer probing. Then you can use a DMM or scope probe and touch the screws or metal parts in a more convenient location. Still prefer screwing the probes down into the terminal block and not changing connections while powered on to avoid surprise smoke events.

    Use a remote power switch - I have a radio controlled power switch I can remotely turn on and off. Where nasty results are expected, I'll have my camera observe while I apply power from a distance.

    Make sure the item is sitting on a nonconducting surface ...

    - Gough

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