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Voltage of Your VMF/VPF LIC Supercapacitors?

Gough Lui
Gough Lui over 2 years ago

After doing some literature review and learning about hybrid lithium-ion (super)capacitors (LICs) which I detail in my most recent blog, it has come to my attention that such capacitors have a minimum voltage and this is actually the voltage that the capacitor should never go below or risk permanent damage, failure or even potential safety issues. Such capacitors are shipped charged to a certain level and should never be short circuited. This is similar to how lithium-ion batteries have a minimum discharge voltage below which you should never reach.

As part of our kit, we received two of each: VMF406M3R8, VMF256M3R8 and VPF406M3R8 supercapacitor which are LICs.

Unfortunately, it seems, that during shipping, the capacitor legs may have touched and likely shorted at some point . As a result, three of the six LICs I have are reading below minimum voltage at 0.003V, 0.008V and 0.911V. The other three are fine at 3.364V, 3.316V and 2.607V. This does mean that both of my VMF256M3R8 are in the below minimum voltage category.

As a result, I would advise all challengers to measure the voltage of their capacitors and see if they are still above the minimum voltage of 2.5V (VMF) or 2.2V (VPF). If so, then keep them separated in a way that would not be able to short circuit and use them well. If not, then perhaps those capacitors have been damaged by this and may not achieve the same level of performance as promised, or perhaps they could even be (slightly) dangerous as I found one datasheet that suggested removing from use immediately while another seemed to suggest that such LICs were immune to thermal runaway failure so a lithium-ion battery style "vent with flame" is not a possibility. I'll probably still use mine anyway with the note that they have been abused.

Nevertheless, do let me know whether your capacitors survived the trip or not ... and in future rscasny , srutledge and even the element14/Newark/Farnell shop to take note that hybrid LIC supercapacitors are shipped charged and cannot be short-circuited, thus "loosely" placing them into a compartment or even into a conductive bag or foam is likely to be a bad idea.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to misaz +4
    Mea culpa on the quantity discussion... On the foam idea - it is a good way to protect the leads from getting bent and shorting together. However I guess it depends what type of ESD foam you have - some…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to colporteur +2
    Well, given that hybrid LIC supercapacitors are relatively new products in general, I had no knowledge of this until I went looking. Mistakes do happen - I've had ESD sensitive components sent to me in…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui +2
    Gough Lui said: just a bit of a heads-up was my intention Yes. The industry had to be trained on proper handling of CMOS too. And the requirement to bake certain ICs. (and not to throw vacuum tubes at…
  • colporteur
    colporteur over 2 years ago

    Your experience and knowledge shared is insight we can use. A great share LG! 

    I am not participating in the challenge. The challenge was one I had my pen poised over the apply button up until the deadline. The knowledge shared is disappointing. I'm disappointed if the vendor never shared the knowledge to E14 shipper. I'm disappointed in the E14 shipper if they ignored the knowledge. I'm really disappointed that it took a challenger to share the knowledge.

    My disappointment extends from wanting to do a good job. I'm not part of the challenge but if I was, doing a good job is important to me. Doing a good job requires reliable parts. If this oversight gives me less than reliable parts that is discouraging. All my efforts cannot make up for parts that are not reliable.

    A good thing about this is that all who read LG post can learn. They have some knowledge that may help them in the future. If I can extrapolate from what LG shared. If I was to use these devices, I need to ensure the circuit doesn't deplete the device below its minimum? My idea for entering this challenge would have done a bad thing and depleted the device. Learned something new!

    I'm curious if anyone outside this challenge have received these devices with a warning clearly labelled. Maybe that is an oversight? 

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to colporteur

    Someone didn't read the datasheet, probably when it was decided to put them loose in compartment boxes. I have ordered this sort of components in the past from a competitor and they where repacked with proper precautions maintained.

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago

    www.cde.com/.../Hybrid-Supercapacitor-Handling-Guidelines.pdf

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    This product is charged with voltage between 3.6V~3.8V from the time of shipment.Use this product within the specified working voltage range of 2.2V ~ 3.8V. Exceeding this may cause leakage or explosion. If discharging lower than 2.2V, it will cause capacitance reduction and ESR increase reducing the life of the product.

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    Do not disassemble the product and avoid shorting positive (+) and negative (-) terminals. If the internal circuit is shorted, it may cause gassing, leakage, explosion, and other problems.

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    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    Do not reverse the polarity. It may cause gas, leakage, explosion, and other problems.

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    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    When using metal tooling, trim and bend leads separately.

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    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    Soldering considerations. Heat shock will decrease electric performance of the cell causing potential swelling, leakage, and crack: - Manual soldering temperature should not exceed 350°C and soldering time should not exceed 4seconds. - Do not wave solder. Do not use reflow soldering, infrared heating and air heating methods on the EDLC.

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    The legal department may not have been attentive to this?

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    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    I think that a legal department isn't skilled to consume that info and translate it in handling procedures. This sounds like an engineering / logistics jobbie

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