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Can I power a 3.3 volt device and something that requires a higher voltage off the same power supply?

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Former Member over 10 years ago

I ask this question because I'm not positive what behavior a voltage regulator has. For example:

 

If I have a 9 volt battery can I use it to power both a 3.3 volt device and a 9 volt device? What are the consistent behaviors of voltage regulators that I should know for these situations?

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago +1
    Hi Simon, Do you have specific devices in mind for use with this common ground dual voltage supply? There may be a few more components that might be needed in some instances to make sure both devices work…
  • dougw
    dougw over 10 years ago

    You can connect your 3.3 volt device to the output of the 3.3 volt regulator.

    You can connect the 9 volt battery to both your 9 volt device and the input to your 3.3 volt regulator.

    If the 2 devices have signals that need to be connected, ensure the 9 volt device does not output a voltage higher than 3.3 volts.

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago

    Hi Simon,

    Do you have specific devices in mind for use with this common ground dual voltage supply? There may be a few more components that might be needed in some instances to make sure both devices work together smoothly.

    John

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    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    I'm looking at an Xbee WiFi Module and a piezo buzzer (which may need to be driven by an external square wave generator but I haven't been able to determine that yet.)

     

    It seems buzzers are going to typically require more than 3.3 volts to sound at adequate volume.

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon,

    Piezo elements do require an oscillator/driver circuit, however if you get one billed as a buzzer chances are the circuitry is already built in. The ones that make the small beep like you hear from a microwave oven or other appliance are probably running on 5 volts. 9 would improve the volume level. Make sure that you use bypass capacitors on the input and output of the 3.3 volt regulator to improve operation. You can check the data sheet for the regulator you choose as they will likely have recommendations. Unlike a motor or relay the piezo buzzer will not require any diode protection.

    John

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    The piezo buzzer is listed here MCKPT-G1410A1-3919 - MULTICOMP - PIEZO BUZZER | Newark element14

     

    and the voltage regulator is listed here UCC383T-3 - TEXAS INSTRUMENTS - LDO VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 3.3V, 3A, TO-220 | Newark element14

     

    I see a schematic in the ripple section that shows 10 microf capacitors on the input and output so that may be their recommendation.

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon,

    This Buzzer is a buzzer and will require no additional circuitry. At 3mA max it can even be run off most logic chip outputs. If the output is Open Collector you will have to wire it in an appropriate manner. The only problem that you may have is that while it will operate at 3 to 30 volts the 3 mA Max tells me that the volume will not likely be very loud and may not vary that much with the higher voltage. If louder volume is needed you can search for buzzers that have a higher mA draw and you may have to add a transistor between your logic device and the buzzer if the mA gets above 10 mA.

    John

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    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    I was thinking the same thing, connect a transistor base to the Xbee output.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    Thank you for consistently giving me these tidbits I probably wouldn't have learned otherwise, John. I'm looking into other buzzers as well.

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon,

    If you really need something that gets the attention check out a siren module. There are sirens that can produce 100 db or more with the power from a 9 volt battery.

    John

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