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royston02 over 11 years ago

Which is the smallest bare avr chip which can be flashed with arduino boot loader with I2C.

Royston.

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    colecago over 11 years ago

    The atmega328 comes in a pretty small package. I believe 3x3 or 4x4mm.

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    colecago over 11 years ago in reply to colecago

    4x4 VQFN

    ATMEGA328-MU - ATMEL ATMEGA328-MU - MCU, 8BIT, ATMEGA, 20MHZ, VQFN-32 | Newark element14 US

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    Former Member over 11 years ago

    Like colecago said the ATMeaga328p is the smallest you would be able to use bare and still be able to program the chip.

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    colecago over 11 years ago

    They also have a 7x7mm one (not including the pins) 32Pin-TQFP if the QFN scares you.

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    royston02 over 11 years ago in reply to colecago

    ATmega 128, the one they used on pro mini?

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  • colecago
    colecago over 11 years ago in reply to royston02

    That also comes in the same package.  Comes down to user preference, compare the two in terms of memory and peripherals, I thought the 328 had more to offer in that tiny package, but it's been awhile.  I have successfully used that 4x4mm Atmega328 on a project.  I of course didn't solder it, one of the tech's I worked with did, he probably heatgunned it, hand soldering something like that could be miserable if you are new to soldering, heatgun or reflow is your best option there.  Watch Ben's reflow oven episode to make your own, that thing is pretty sweet when it's in action, though leaded solder smells a bit :-)

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    royston02 over 11 years ago in reply to colecago

    so you're saying to use 328 due to soldering issues?

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    colecago over 11 years ago in reply to royston02

    No, both come in the same package, the 4x4mm at the smallest. I'm saying that is hard to solder if you are inexperienced.

     

    Also I said I preferred the 328 to the 168 because I think it had more features, but you should verify that yourself.

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