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A Chimney of the Future from 1700:ish

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Former Member over 11 years ago

A single rising chimney is inefficient because the smoke does not have time delivery the heat to the chimney walls.

Instead make a wrinkly chimney that goes up and down inside a heat absorbing (usually heavy) material. :-) Like this:

 

KAKELUGN - SCANDINAVIAN STOVES - vkvvisuals.com/blog

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The smoke/warm air goes up, down on both sides, up on both sides and merges into the chimney. The outside is usually glaced ceramic tiles, on the inside brick and clay mortar. The clay mortar is necessary because when the stove gets warm, and its a lot of heat stored in the stove which can weigh up to 2000 pounds, the stove expands, an inch our so in circumference. The glaced tiles do not expand, but the space between them do. If normal mortar is used, the stove will crack. Its non-trivial to build such a stove.


However there is a modern version of this stove which is brilliant. Imagine a standing cylinder, in the bottom, there is a fireplace, then you create a chimney of normal metal pipes, going up and down in the cylinder. Then you fill the cylinder with sand! Presto, a heat absorbing stove.


Here is a description from a newspaper:

http://www.dn.se/bostad/varmande-hemmabygge-med-hog-mysfaktor/

and here is the translation in English:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fbostad%2Fvar…

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to phoenixcomm +1
    Thanks! Here is the company selling the sand oven: SKAB - Sandugnen And here is the patent describing how it is constructed, if you want to build your own. The patent only seems to be valid in Sweden.…
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    Former Member over 11 years ago +1
    HI there, ALso you could make C form tubes from clay tiles above and from the sides of fire place, in that case Heat would move air in the room.
  • phoenixcomm
    phoenixcomm over 11 years ago

    your link is brilliant!! I have done a few energy collection builds.. I have done power shedding, solar hot water, and a stream driven generator... thanks Cris H.

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to phoenixcomm

    Thanks! Here is the company selling the sand oven:

    SKAB - Sandugnen

     

    And here is the patent describing how it is constructed, if you want to build your own. The patent only seems to be valid in Sweden.

    Espacenet - Original document

     

    Google translate is your friend! :-)

     

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    Also note that the small circular openings at the botton are used for two things.

    1) Clean out accumulated ashes, and 2) to kickstart the draft. This is necessary if the

    stove is really cold in a cold house. Cold air inside the stove can block the up/down draft,

    preventing the draft to even get started. The trick is to open the small circular opening at

    the bottom side, insert a burning paper to get the draft going. Then you can fire up the main fire.

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    Former Member over 11 years ago

    HI there,

    ALso you could make C form tubes from clay tiles above and from the sides of fire place, in that case  Heat would move air in the room. image

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