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Stepper Motor Troubleshooting

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fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago

Hello, my name is Peter R and for the past several months I have been building a 3D printer. I have the frame and everything done, but I consistently run into the issue where my stepper motors run erratically; when I issue a movement command they change direction at random, move in unpredictable spurts, clank, grind and make weird noises--and that's if I'm lucky enough to get them running at all. They appear to be uni-polar motors, and I have wired their four wires in as many orientations as possible and still get the same issue? Is this a board problem, or the motors themselves?

The motors are 17H249-02S motors, manufactured by Xuquan motor, but there is little documentation on them on the internet as far I have found.

Many thank to whoever can answer this.

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    fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey +2
    Huzzah (yes I say huzzah) I have inadvertently solved my problem. My end-stops were wired improperly so the control board thought that they were closed. Thus my motors could never move in the direction…
  • fuzion_reaktor
    fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus +1
    Motors, yes are a plugging in problem. This is just weird. But switching the two works and I have successfully printed a small misshaped cube...Progress...
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    0 D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    Do they still misbehave when they have a mechanically resistive load?  How many wires attach to your motors?

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Yes they misbehave with a load, though they more often than not just sit still. They are 4 wire motors, 2 phase, 48 N/cm holding torque, and possibly take 1.8 amps. They are sold by Mixshop, where I got my kit, but they don't have much more info than this.

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    0 D_Hersey over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Okay, that is a bi-polar motor, bi-phasic steppers that are unipolar have 5, 6 or 8 wires.  Describe your driver, please.  You need either a bipolar supply, or an H-driver architecture driver.  You have two coils, we need to be able to push and pull on both of them.  In the appropriate sequence.  I believe Hitachi developed a 5-phase motor and driver that needed to be driven in a pentagram path that were less prone to resonance.  I don't think these caught on very well, shame.  You have a (quadrature) four-phase, two coil motor.  If you have only ever been able to take a step or two at best, you are probably mistakenly using a unipolar driver on a bipolar motor.  2phase +0- would have three main terminals for the power, four output connections, and four power switches.  2phase +- would have two main terminals for power, four output connections (neglecting possible sense channels) and eight power switches.  Your power switches may not be discretes, nowadays..

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    OK, my motors came in a kit with no documentation on them. All I was told was which wire to put where. The drivers I am using are built into the board. Its a baboi board, which I'm told is basically a RAMPS board and arduino combined. It has four integrated Allegro A4982 drivers. You can find more info on this page; Baboi (Single Electronic Board Solution) - $149.00 CAD : Mixshop 3D Printer, Toronto, Canada, RepRap Prusa Mendel Parts , and http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Baboi, as well as efuntim.com. Whether this is sufficient for my type of motors is beyond me at the moment. Also whether or not I got the right motors is still under investigation.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    OK, my motors came in a kit with no documentation on them. All I was told was which wire to put where. The drivers I am using are built into the board. Its a baboi board, which I'm told is basically a RAMPS board and arduino combined. It has four integrated Allegro A4982 drivers. You can find more info on this page; Baboi (Single Electronic Board Solution) - $149.00 CAD : Mixshop 3D Printer, Toronto, Canada, RepRap Prusa Mendel Parts , and http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Baboi, as well as efuntim.com. Whether this is sufficient for my type of motors is beyond me at the moment. Also whether or not I got the right motors is still under investigation.

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