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Stepper Motor Troubleshooting

fuzion_reaktor
fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago

Hello, my name is Peter R and for the past several months I have been building a 3D printer. I have the frame and everything done, but I consistently run into the issue where my stepper motors run erratically; when I issue a movement command they change direction at random, move in unpredictable spurts, clank, grind and make weird noises--and that's if I'm lucky enough to get them running at all. They appear to be uni-polar motors, and I have wired their four wires in as many orientations as possible and still get the same issue? Is this a board problem, or the motors themselves?

The motors are 17H249-02S motors, manufactured by Xuquan motor, but there is little documentation on them on the internet as far I have found.

Many thank to whoever can answer this.

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    fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey +2
    Huzzah (yes I say huzzah) I have inadvertently solved my problem. My end-stops were wired improperly so the control board thought that they were closed. Thus my motors could never move in the direction…
  • fuzion_reaktor
    fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus +1
    Motors, yes are a plugging in problem. This is just weird. But switching the two works and I have successfully printed a small misshaped cube...Progress...
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    0 D_Hersey over 11 years ago

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Huzzah (yes I say huzzah) I have inadvertently solved my problem. My end-stops were wired improperly so the control board thought that they were closed. Thus my motors could never move in the direction that would lead them to move past the end-stop. I feel like such an idiot right now. Also, I hot glued my molex metal crimp contacts into their sockets so they wouldn't get pushed out by the pins, which was causing my motors to run erratically.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    And now the extruder just melted itself...such is my life.

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Doh! Were you using a temperature sensor to ensure it didn't overheat. If not then I recommend you implement such a change immediately. Also, hot glue for the win!

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Doh! Were you using a temperature sensor to ensure it didn't overheat. If not then I recommend you implement such a change immediately. Also, hot glue for the win!

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus

    Actually yes, I was using a thermistor, however, even though a wrap of kapton tape, it somehow contacted the heater block and then I almost had a fire. Either that or it failed, I can't really tell as it melted and it stuck inside the block.

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Perhaps you could cut open the block to troubleshoot? Also, consider a thermal cut-out fuse for an extra layer of safety.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus

    I don't have the equipment to saw through solid metal, as small a piece of metal as it is. Also, that's a good idea about a fuse, I once was considering installing one however my motor issues were the main issue and distracted me. What happened was I was just testing to see if they would home themselves properly before starting a print. A few seconds later there's smoke.

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Well, I haven't a clue what caused this. I guess you just have to replace the damaged parts and add the fuse. Hopefully it won't happen again, but if it does, post it as a new discussion on the 3d printer section and see what other people say. Please bear in mind that I an by no means an expert at this.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus

    I think my thermistor connection contacted the heater block causing a false read.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Wait, scratch that, yes it was contacting making a bad reading, but my printer is reading the heat-bed thermistor as the hot-end thermistor. this piece of junk, why can't it work properly!?

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    *facepalm* At you are learning. Don't give up, just think of the things you will eventually print. Or sell it to me at a huge discount. Is it just me or do most of your problems come from plugging things in wrong. Next time, quadruple check your wiring and then, if possible, get a friend to check as well. Also, please post a picture when you are done.

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    0 fuzion_reaktor over 11 years ago in reply to kidiccurus

    Motors, yes are a plugging in problem. This is just weird. But switching the two works and I have successfully printed a small misshaped cube...Progress...

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    0 kidiccurus over 11 years ago in reply to fuzion_reaktor

    Yay, you're 3/4 of the way there, now you just need to fine tune it.

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