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Thanks to the judges and element14, I was able to obtain some bits and pieces that I may not ordinarily have purchased. I took the opportunity to try some new things. This blog post just contains some photos, in case they are of interest.

First off are some items that will allow experimentation with a Renesas GreenPAK part SLG47004V.

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The diagram here shows what’s inside the SLG47004V chip; it contains analog functions such as op-amps and comparators, plus digital functions such as configurable combinatorial logic, flip-flops, and even a digital pattern generator. I don’t know much more about it currently.

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Here’s a close-up of the SLG47004V-EVB board which is mostly blank apart from the single SLG47004V chip installed at the center.

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The SLG4DVKGSD board is used to program it:

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Both the eval board and the programmer board are quite low-cost, which makes it attractive for experimenting. However, the chip is QFN sized : ( so I figured it was worth getting the SLG47004V-SKT board that contains a QFN socket broken out to pin headers. It comes with 20 SLG47004V chips, i.e. plenty for a lot of experimentation (each chip is reprogrammable).

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I also wanted to experiment further with audio DSP, and I selected an Analog Devices DSP board, EVAL-ADAU1467Z. It comes with a separate USB interface board.

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The ADAU1467 is one of the more powerful DSPs in the range.

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These types of DSP chips are extremely easy to use and it doesn’t have to cost a lot; see the following blog post:  Wave Miner: A Pi-controlled Digital Signal Processor 


Close-up of the evaluation board:

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Underside:

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The USB interface board is extremely useful (it can be purchased separately as EVAL-ADUSB2EBZ), but unfortunately, it’s pricey. However, it is possible to work around it and use a Pi partially, but that’s nowhere near as convenient.

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Finally, I also chose an LCTR1002 50-ohm SMA RF terminator and some GC005-LF prototyping boards.

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Thanks for reading.

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  • I'm planning on creating a voice assistant (Gemini API), but I need a really good microphone and speaker (with amplifier). The idea is capturing the audio using mic, storing it in ESP32's flash memory, and make a http post and get the response. I don't have much hardware knowledge and I don't even know where to started on mic and speaker part. Is it possible to use the audio dev kit for that purpose? 

  • in reply to dougw

    I'm looking for mic that can pick up audio over 2-3 meters as well. Also, speaker should handle high quality audio as well, in case I want to play audios as well. This i2s mic is not that good quality, I've tried before.

  • in reply to balajivan1995

    Things like Echo Dot (at least the early versions; I've not checked the recent models) use tiny MEMs microphones, and at least the Echo Dot 2 uses analog output ones, connected to an ADC (TI TLV320ADC3101) which has a small in-built DSP for adding some processing if desired. The TI DSPs use software called PurePath Console, which doesn't seem as nice as AD's Sigma Studio. Some versions of PurePath Console require purchasing the Eval board for the desired device. Some of the more recent TI devices are supported by the latest releases of PurePath Console, and then purchasing the eval board isn't essential, because the I2C commands for the DSP configuration are accessible in the software. I've not used PPC because of the eval board cost, but it could be interesting to hear from users who have (or those who have used more recent parts perhaps with a lower-cost board).

    There's an Echo Dot Gen 2 teardown here:  Amazon Echo Dot 2nd Gen Teardown  (photos are no longer high-res there unfortunately, but the specific part number of the microphone is unknown anyway, google didn't help me at the time; it may be a special labelled part specifically ordered from the mnfr by Amazon).

    I dug up this photo of an Echo Dot Gen 2 mic. It's not very detailed, I could take an Echo Dot 2 apart to get a better photo, but I don't think it's worth it, since it's so old; better to look at a more recent design, but the mic might still have a custom part number.

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    Two mics per TI chip (differential signals):

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    Another design worth checking is ReSpeaker: https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/ReSpeaker_Mic_Array_v2.0/

    According to the info at that link, the ReSpeaker is using a MEMs PDM microphone from ST: https://www.st.com/en/audio-ics/mp34dt01-m.html

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  • in reply to balajivan1995

    Things like Echo Dot (at least the early versions; I've not checked the recent models) use tiny MEMs microphones, and at least the Echo Dot 2 uses analog output ones, connected to an ADC (TI TLV320ADC3101) which has a small in-built DSP for adding some processing if desired. The TI DSPs use software called PurePath Console, which doesn't seem as nice as AD's Sigma Studio. Some versions of PurePath Console require purchasing the Eval board for the desired device. Some of the more recent TI devices are supported by the latest releases of PurePath Console, and then purchasing the eval board isn't essential, because the I2C commands for the DSP configuration are accessible in the software. I've not used PPC because of the eval board cost, but it could be interesting to hear from users who have (or those who have used more recent parts perhaps with a lower-cost board).

    There's an Echo Dot Gen 2 teardown here:  Amazon Echo Dot 2nd Gen Teardown  (photos are no longer high-res there unfortunately, but the specific part number of the microphone is unknown anyway, google didn't help me at the time; it may be a special labelled part specifically ordered from the mnfr by Amazon).

    I dug up this photo of an Echo Dot Gen 2 mic. It's not very detailed, I could take an Echo Dot 2 apart to get a better photo, but I don't think it's worth it, since it's so old; better to look at a more recent design, but the mic might still have a custom part number.

    image

    Two mics per TI chip (differential signals):

    image

    Another design worth checking is ReSpeaker: https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/ReSpeaker_Mic_Array_v2.0/

    According to the info at that link, the ReSpeaker is using a MEMs PDM microphone from ST: https://www.st.com/en/audio-ics/mp34dt01-m.html

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