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Now, Can You Guess where this FULL PCB came from? (If so you could Win an oscilloscope!) [CLOSED]

baldengineer
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2 Dec 2022
Now, Can You Guess where this FULL PCB came from? (If so you could Win an oscilloscope!) [CLOSED]

Hey element14 Community, I have a small puzzle for you!

If you can solve it, you could win an Oscilloscope from Multicomp Pro (see link below for terms and conditions.)

The Puzzle Part 1 - Can you guess the device this PCB came from?

I took this PCB out of a consumer electronics device. With just this small clipping, can you identify what the device was and its original model number?

One hint, which should surprise no one that knows me, is that the device was released in the 1980s. Slight smile

Circuit board with several NEC and Hitatchi chips visible. There are also two white single row connectors. And a yellow wire bodge.

Also, not so much a hint, but an important note you should know. There are two modern modifications I did to this device. But they may or may not be visible in this (partial) picture. However, the yellow bodge wires shown here are how they shipped from the factory!

Take a Guess (in order to Win)

I look forward to seeing your guesses. To enter to win the Multicomp Pro Oscilloscope, you need to respond with the device type and its model number.

Feel free to ask me (almost) any questions about the device. (No, I won't tell you the model number.)

Soon I will post another section of the board and ask more questions.

Part 2 Update! - Guess where this FULL PCB came from!

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With so many similar entries, we're going to do a bit of a run-off, but anyone is free to reply and enter.

  1. What is the name of the product?
  2. Who manufactured it?
  3. What year was it released?
  4. How much RAM did this particular PCB have?
  5. What two "modern" modifications have I made to the device?

See Terms & Conditions | Multicomp Pro Oscilloscope

Update: Congrats

After reviewing the submissions, dougw correctly answered all of the questions (eventually!) 

Thank you to everyone who participated.

Community Manager Note: Part 2 was originally posted as a secondary blog, we've merged it into this one, please continue to enter the competition and your answers, your previous replies haven't been lost, but we'd appreciate it if you re-posted them onto here - cstanton 

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave +1
    I've been working on a HD6303 based system recently. Know of any useful Hitachi resources?
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago +1
    You guys are right: Tandy TRS-80 Micro Color Computer MC-10
  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago +1
    The answer for points: search bit-preserve on github But I don't know how to use github, or not it is not yet in the project, or its not a vintage computer. lol Regardless fun event!
  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave +1
    lol I have only been able to use element14 in incognito mode for days now... I also tried using google lens, no obvious answers there either: It wasn't an obvious answer to me...
  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave +1
    lol Or, is this answer scottie really is a goof! the model number is in the bottom left corner: Though MC-10 isn't a model name I know of the top of my head.
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to dougw +1
    The Matra & Hachette Alice is often cited as being a clone of the MC-10. Looks like there was the Brazilian 'MicroColor' clone as well by Sysdata Electronica. Sometimes it is hard to tell who is cloning…
  • ammsyed
    ammsyed over 2 years ago +1
    I was sure at first sight that it was MC Micro controller as i have been working a lot on these types of devices 1980s onwards as i was involved in servicing almost all types of devices available at that…
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    Thanks, this teaser brought back fond memories.

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    baldengineer over 2 years ago

    Congratulations dougw you identified the board and answered the additional questions correctly. Someone from the element14 Community will contact you regarding the oscilloscope.

    Thanks to everyone who participated.

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  • michaelwylie
    michaelwylie over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    It was a Christmas gift, so I have no idea. Probably came out of the ole Sears Christmas Catalog.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to michaelwylie

    Those Computrons are still running. How much did they originally cost?

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    ammsyed over 2 years ago

    I was sure at first sight that it was MC Micro controller as i have been working a lot on these types of devices 1980s onwards as i was involved in servicing almost all types of devices available at that time, now i have the details 

     

    Answer1: it is from Micro Color Computer Tandy Radio Shack TRS-80https://www.trs-80.com/wordpress/trs-80-computer-line/mc-10/

    Answer 2: It was manufactured by MOTOROLA

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    Answer 3:        It was released in the year, October 1983

    Answer 4:        It has a 4K (Expandable to 20K with a 16K RAMpack)

    Answer 5: According to author; the two modifications made were the MC-10 is set to CH3 (61.25MHz), however the carrier at 67.60Mhz is closer to CH4 (67.65MHz).

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    Author modified the MC-10 RF modulator. as per the examples from the MC6847 and MC1372 datasheets and to make sure a composite video signal. 

    and added an output driver stageimage

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    The RF modulator changed. Added a pad and low-pass filter for the single flippy bit audio as well.

    The above information is as per the author post on social media 

    i hope the above answers are correct, as per the information retrieved from the social media posts by author Daniel Tufvesson

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