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Could points for Helpful and Likes be Driving Wrong Behaviors?

Sean_Miller
Sean_Miller over 6 years ago

I often am happy to see my inbox summary showing a lot of messages available to read, but then I often get disappointed because the majority of them are folks marking "helpful" in discussions I was part of. 

The reason its disappointing is that it looks like they are nuking the entire discussion.  Every single person that commented is tagged with a like and helpful.  Even posts that are just saying "thanks for posting" are tagged as helpful or liked.  Total dilution of the purpose of the button.

 

At first, I thought - well that's super friendly.  Then I dug a little further and looked at profiles of the users doing the nuking and I saw that what is happening is they are scoring 10 points per click.

 

To me, this seems like the points rewards are driving the wrong behavior here.  A behavior that actually doesn't boost one's reputation in the real world - particularly, because it clutters my inbox with bogus helpful tags. Also, the person that took 3 hours to blog on something is getting less points than the guy nuking every comment as helpful.

 

So, my feedback is, do we really need to reward for clicking like or helpful?  When someone is helpful, I'm compelled to click it anyway without the expectation of getting rewarded.  I know they'll get points and its a good virtual way to express thanks.

 

Or, best yet, can I suppress the "helpful" notifications from my inbox?

 

-Sean

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 6 years ago +9
    Hi Sean, I have always thought that a Like or a Helpful should confer points to the receiver and give no points to the actor. This would add meaning to the points. Unfortunately the system as it is set…
  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago +7
    The points system has issues with not reflecting effort or merit etc. which many of us have lamented on and proposed alternatives, but even with its downsides it is still a pretty positive aspect of the…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago +5
    There are a few names that come to mind when it comes to Like/Helpful "bombing". It can be especially annoying when older threads suddenly seemingly get revived by a few liked/helpfuls for the sake of…
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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago

    The points system has issues with not reflecting effort or merit etc. which many of us have lamented on and proposed alternatives, but even with its downsides it is still a pretty positive aspect of the forum.

    I never used to click on "like" at all, and I don't on other forums.

    But on element14, I now click on a "like" a lot. I do this to encourage participation by indicating I appreciate the effort involved in making comments and participating.

    I definitely do not need more points and they don't lead to anything if I do get more points. I wouldn't change my behavior if clicking on "Like" resulted in 1 point, 10 points or no points. I might change if someone proved that clicking was detrimental to the forum.

    It takes effort to read all the comments and click on a lot of "Like" buttons and deal with tons of email notifications, but if it helps to keep participation levels up and keep the forum vibrant, I think it is worth the effort. I get a lot out of the forum.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago

    The points system has issues with not reflecting effort or merit etc. which many of us have lamented on and proposed alternatives, but even with its downsides it is still a pretty positive aspect of the forum.

    I never used to click on "like" at all, and I don't on other forums.

    But on element14, I now click on a "like" a lot. I do this to encourage participation by indicating I appreciate the effort involved in making comments and participating.

    I definitely do not need more points and they don't lead to anything if I do get more points. I wouldn't change my behavior if clicking on "Like" resulted in 1 point, 10 points or no points. I might change if someone proved that clicking was detrimental to the forum.

    It takes effort to read all the comments and click on a lot of "Like" buttons and deal with tons of email notifications, but if it helps to keep participation levels up and keep the forum vibrant, I think it is worth the effort. I get a lot out of the forum.

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago in reply to dougw

    One thing that annoys me is the number of people who tend to find their own comments helpful - probably because they couldn't like their own comments because the system prevents them from doing so.

     

    At the least, finding your own comment helpful should not be allowed ...

     

    - Gough

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 6 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Sometimes I make a no helpful for those...

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    Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to clem57

    sometimes I do that just for fun. image

     

    3 of 3 people found this helpful

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