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Giving reputation points for starting a discussion

randomfactor
randomfactor over 10 years ago

I'm curious about the unintended consequences of awarding reputation points for starting a discussion. Wouldn't that cause a lot of extraneous discussions such as this one?

 

Oh, and please, please like my discussion. I want the rep points.  Thanks!!

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 10 years ago +4 suggested
    Well given that this has nothing to do with Raspberry Pi, the community is likely to ignore you. Perhaps you could repond to other peoples questions and give helpful answers, that would get you more points…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago +4 verified
    Hi Randall, The reason for the points is to encourage participation. The points really don't count for anything to anyone except ourselves. I get a lot out of this site because the really good participants…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to randomfactor +4
    Hi Randall, From my perspective it is better to allow the new people to talk even if they are not yet in tune to the site environment. This is actually part of what is good about E-14. Whether the new…
  • mcb1
    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago

    Well given that this has nothing to do with Raspberry Pi, the community is likely to ignore you.

     

    Perhaps you could repond to other peoples questions and give helpful answers, that would get you more points and quicker.

     

     

    And NO I'm not going to like your post to give you points ...it's bad enough you get some for a response.

     

     

    Mark

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  • jw0752
    0 jw0752 over 10 years ago

    Hi Randall,

    The reason for the points is to encourage participation. The points really don't count for anything to anyone except ourselves. I get a lot out of this site because the really good participants are willing to take their time and share ideas, education, and answers with us. There are several people who have joined in the last couple days, with very few points, who obviously (to me) know a lot more about Electronics Engineering than I do. I can learn from them and if they stick around they will get a lot of points. However, the real measure of a participant on the site isn't how many points they have but rather the respect they have earned from their fellow members by posting relevant Blogs, starting engaging Discussions, and answering Questions in a clear and accurate manner.

    John

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    haha you are rite........

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  • randomfactor
    0 randomfactor over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    In response to mnona144

     

    concur with your points about the intent of the reputation points. However, a faulty system will result in false reputation scores and that defeats the intent. Jeff Atwood (@codinghorror on twitter) notes some very interesting lessons learned about creating and managing online community in his blog. He and his co-conspirators have implemented and evolved the rules for computing a reputation score on stackoverflow and in discourse, two arenas where communities are the determining factor for the success or failure of web sites. One rule that makes sense is to prevent newbies such as myself from starting discussions until some measurement is attained that shows that a new member understands and respects the conventions within that community.  Food for thought.

     

    Neither here nor there: if I knew a way to do it, I would move this discussion to a "meta" area instead of raspberry pi. Sorry about that.

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    0 nlarson over 10 years ago in reply to randomfactor

    I'm happy to move this conversation for you, randomfactor.  I think the best place is our Members area.  Also, do keep in mind the Community here does self-moderate which means if other members feel that you are creating content just to earn points without providing value they can report it as spam - not that you would do anything like this, just something to keep in mind image

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  • rew
    0 rew over 10 years ago in reply to randomfactor

    Well at stackoverflow, I think they've gone too far: I've contributed a few times and gained a few points. But now when I try to answer a question: not enough points. When I try to ask a question: not enough points. When I try to comment: not enough points. When I try to like/dislike a post: not enough points. I don't know how I can earn points to reach the limits. I have the impression that a somewhat closed community now exists that HAS points and is able to expand on them, while others like me cannot join because there aren't any ways to earn points without first having some.

     

    I think such a system should work transparently. Maybe present a question from a "newbie" to a moderator first before you allow it on the big site.

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    0 jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to randomfactor

    Hi Randall,

    From my perspective it is better to allow the new people to talk even if they are not yet in tune to the site environment. This is actually part of what is good about E-14. Whether the new person is an excellent communicator or a young person with a simple, barely understandable, question, we should try to respond. Many of the questions come from members who are not native English speakers. I am always impressed by the effort that they put into expressing themselves so that their questions and contributions can be understood. While we have specific Groups for different areas of interest the new person sometimes has difficulty determining where his or her question belongs. I have seen where the impulse to keep these Groups clean of questions, that are not on topic, have resulted in rebuffs to the new member instead of friendly acceptance. With people constantly joining the site education and acclimatization is a continuing process. I like your idea for a Meta Group though it should probably be called Miscellaneous Questions so it is clear to the new members that they can put questions of undetermined topic there.

    John

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  • gadget.iom
    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to rew

    I agree with your sentiments regarding StackOverflow and their network of sites.

    You are locked out of practically all engagement with the community until you've earned points. It's a very "chicken and egg" affair.

    I remember one of my first interactions with the site being a situation where I need dclarification about a question, couldn't write a comment (not enough points) so put the query in an answer. Within minutes I was publicly chastised by a regular user for doing so.

     

    End result...

    1. I much prefer the open communication that Element14 affords all of its users old and new.
    2. My stack overflow account has been dormant ever since.
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    0 johnbeetem over 10 years ago

    StackOverflow's scheme sounds awful.  I've never posted there myself -- I just look at promising answers to Google searches.

     

    Sure, it's possible to game element14's point system, but you need so many points to get up to the top levels the game gets old very quickly.  And what's the point?  If you get there by posting silly things, you'll just get a silly reputation.

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