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What do you use as an Engineer's Notebook? Time for IdeaBook.com?

4ringfan
4ringfan over 10 years ago

I'm trying to come up with the best memory archival tool.  Kind of a digital notebook of sorts.  I'd like something that I can store images, scraps of knowledge, notes, calculations, etc. and have it completely searchable. Right now, it is pen and paper, saved internet links in my browser, dropbox, and images on my phone.  My thoughts are probably scattered and saved somewhere, but they are never where I need them of course.  I can't seem to find anything when I need it.  Maybe I'll just have to blog everything on E-14 and have it searchable that way. Hehe, everyone get ready for my grocery list!  Putting the guys that use pen and paper aside (Sorry, but it just doesn't work for me), does anyone use any notebook apps that they are especially fond of?


The tools I commonly use:  Macbook, iPad, iPhone, and Desktop PC.


Ideally this application would be web based and useable anywhere by any device, it would be scalable and able to store vast chunks of data, and indexed for fast searches.  Suggestions?


Might be time to launch a new internet startup company called IdeaBook or something like that.  Just a white graph paper screen on which one can scribble notes, images, calculations, etc and have them stored like a journal and searchable like a database on the WWW.


Has anyone seen anything like that, or what do you guys use to record your stuff?

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  • vsluiter
    vsluiter over 10 years ago +6
    Hello Mike, I'm using a build-it-myself system, inspired on the work of a colleague. He's keeping memos in Word, and updates those regularly. He "interlinks" documents that have relations with other memos…
  • gadget.iom
    gadget.iom over 10 years ago +5
    I'm a big fan of Trello. Worth checking out. https://trello.com
  • DAB
    DAB over 10 years ago +5
    Hi Mike, I used an old fashioned spiral notebook for all of my professional career. The key is to use it daily to record events, and activities, and very importantly decisions and who made them. Having…
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    Would have to be a combination of such. GIMP with Notepad? image

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  • gadget.iom
    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Wlodzimierz Wnukowski wrote:

     

    GIMP with Notepad?

    You mean this bloke?

    image

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  • Problemchild
    0 Problemchild over 10 years ago

    A note book, one that you cant tear out the sheets is good other wise over time they always tear and get lost.

    I also use  my tablet or more likely or my Note3 phone which is basically the same thing ...Good to use as a camera too for documentation purposes

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  • 4ringfan
    0 4ringfan over 10 years ago

    I just found this list of online note apps on mashable.

    Top 10 Online Note Taking Applications

     

    I'm out in the field working right now, so I'll respod to everyones comments later, just so you understand the general direction of the online engineering "specific" notebook that I was imagining.

     

    i would like an online application that is not device specific, that is searchable, stores URLS, images, schematics, possibly videos, etc.

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    I use Evernote and the Evernote Webclipper extension in Chrome. You can grab full articles that you want to save, create new rich text documents, save links, almost anything and tag them, file them, etc for easy searching later.

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  • DAB
    0 DAB over 10 years ago

    Hi Mike,

     

    I used an old fashioned spiral notebook for all of my professional career.

    The key is to use it daily to record events, and activities, and very importantly decisions and who made them.

     

    Having issues in writing are priceless when you get into urinal Olympics over who said what at a meeting weeks or months past.

     

    I always won because I would pull out my notebook, flip back to the meeting and show what I had recorded as a decision.

     

    I know a lot of people have gone digital with this type of recording, but I just like the feel of a solid paper copy with the time and date nicely recorded in ink and easy to access anywhere I happen to be.

     

    I always urged all of my new engineers to do the same.

    The information is great at review time when you need to show all that you accomplished during the past year.  Otherwise you are at the mercy of your bosses memory or worse, his impression of you.

     

    DAB

     

    PS, I still use them for recording thoughts and ideas now that I am retired.   That is how I documented my thoughts for my book "I Killed Schrodinger's Cat!"

     

    Paper is always valuable if you need to fight for idea protection.

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    0 johnbeetem over 10 years ago

    Like DAB, I like paper.  I use college-ruled composition books -- the ones with the granite pattern on the covers.  I always prefer pen to pencil.

     

    I always date my entries, which makes it much easier to find things when a problem from a year ago needs to be referenced.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to 4ringfan

    Hi Mike!

     

    I'd say OneNote _almost_ meets your entire requirements, and is free.

    It has a browser-based version (so device-agnostic), and apps for iPhone/Android as well as the PC application. It stores images, and I just tested videos now too.

    The requirement regarding search seems to be met for the PC and iPhone/Android applications, but the web client version has a slightly limited search where it will only search the current page of the notebook, although if you search additional pages in the notebook you don't need to retype the search query, but you do need to select the page.

    The apps versions can search all pages in a notebook automatically in one fell swoop.

    The web client version search capability may not be such a restriction if (say) you organize your documents into many few-paged sections/notebooks, so that you already know the section you want, and then there may be only a few pages to click through. However I guess the web client search capability is only needed if you don't have your mobile with you or your normal day-to-day PC.

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  • mcb1
    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I've seen these type of discussions before, and while the new technolgy tends to make some of them possible, I've got a question for you to ponder.

     

    Do you remember phone numbers, now you have a phone that stores it?

    Have you lost that ability to recall even 5 or 6 common ones.?

     

    The above becomes worse when you keep using that Technology to store meeting dates, birthdays, shopping and the like.

    You rely more and more on the technology and stop actually remembering.

     

    So now instead of recalling the event or item, you have to search for "what was that thing I had to do/I've seen this before" event.

     

     

    I agree that paper is often the best method, as the process of writing it tends to help cement it into the grey matter.

    Mark

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    0 4ringfan over 10 years ago in reply to vsluiter

    vsluiter, I do understand your methodology and your reasons for wanting to maintain it on your own server.  I pretty much do something similar to that right now, albeit not on my own server.  Dropbox and Google Drive act as my file cabinets and I keep all of my links sorted under tabs within Chrome.  As I use Chrome on all of my devices, all of the links carry over and I don't have to worry about links on an Apple being different than links on a PC.  This method works, but I still have to do all of the sorting and filing.  I'm looking to press the EASY button.  I would like to just have a note app where I can drag images, type text, draw pictures, maybe enter a few tags and have it be searchable.  I don't want to have to rely on myself and the dewey decimal system to find something that I have filed away.  I used to do all of my business accounting on my PC and several times, I had bad things happen.  Hard drive failures, software glitches during updates, etc. where I was freaked out.  About 6 years ago I moved to Netsuite for my business accounting solution.  It is expensive, but backup is redundant, systems are maintained, my data is available anywhere I go and it makes me happy inside. image

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