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Seeking Your Ideas about Upcoming Experimenting with Tooling Challenge

rscasny
rscasny 4 months ago

Greetings to all.

In the Experimenting with [Components] Challenge program, I've thus far focused on passive components, sensors, and magnetics. This year we are trying to branch out since some of our sponsors really like what element14 has produced.

In March, I'm planning on launching an Experimenting with Tooling. Obviously, element14 members use all kinds of tools from hand tools to soldering stations to test equipment. Any of these tools could be the subject of a roadtest, but our sponsor liked the creativity and, well, the experimentation, of the Experimenting program. That's why it was chosen for this community activity.

Thus far, I am being give some crimp terminals and some pricey hand crimp tools. Here they are:

Hand Crimp Tools
www.molex.com/.../0638190901
www.molex.com/.../0638275370
www.molex.com/.../0638190000
www.molex.com/.../0638191500
www.molex.com/.../0638194400

Crimp Terminals
www.molex.com/.../0039000039
www.molex.com/.../1722537023
www.molex.com/.../0430300007
www.molex.com/.../5013340100
www.molex.com/.../5023810000

I gather from reading about the crimping tools, they are provided with a crimping head for a specific product.

What I am seeking from you?

In this program, some members will be happy enough to play around with the crimping tools; not often does someone play around with a $300US crimping tool.

But I am feeling that we could do a bit more in this activity. Perhaps add in some connectors. Or some other things? I am quite open right now since I am still in the planning stage.

So I am looking for any ideas of how to "spice up" this activity.

If you have any ideas, please leave a comment below. Thanks.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz 4 months ago +2

    Hi Randall,

    Interesting challenge : ) It would be great to see several connectors in the compatible series being a part of a project, because often it's unclear how much use a crimp tool will get, without…

  • colporteur
    colporteur 3 months ago +2

    I use this crimp often www.molex.com/.../0039000039 . My tool is not performing up to par. It is a cheap foreign knock-off and the pins are from a number of sources. Being cheap has its downsides. As DW…

  • shabaz
    shabaz 3 months ago in reply to Andrew J +2

    Hi Andrew,

    Regarding motorized activator, that's an interesting point... I think a some of these crimp tools are made in what looks like two separate pieces of functionality, the top head part looks like…

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J 4 months ago

    I think the cost is the biggest issue for anyone except engineers in a corporate environment - they are hideously expensive.  The Multicomp Pro ones I use, will do dupont, KK crimps really well and cost a tenth of the typical price of a dedicated tool from a named manufacturer like Molex.  I bought a separate Knipex crimper for bootlace ferrules, essentially just a fancy plier, again at a tenth of the typical price.

    Nonetheless, that's not really the issue here but how to experiment with them.  It would be easy to fall into just a roadtest - e.g, say, comparing a Molex crimper to the Multicomp Pro crimper, or reporting on how frustratingly pernickety they are to get a good crimp.  It's difficult though because a crimper is really a one-trick pony - it crimps!  So I think Shabaz is on to something: can it create good or good-enough crimps for connectors that it wasn't specifically intended for; can crimp heads from other manufacturers, that one might have on hand, be shoe-horned in and work; could it be worked with a knee whilst both hands are busy holding wire and crimp; could two smaller gauge wires be crimped into one terminal - three??  What about this: could you create a motorised activator - stick the handles into the activator and have it squeeze until the crimping ratchet releases (I think that's gone beyond the bounds of what you are looking for Grinning.)

    As difficult as it seems at the moment - and I will continue to scratch my head for other ideas - I think it's a great idea to look at them from an experimentation view rather than a roadtest which, to be honest with these types of things, will only tell us that, "yes, it does what it says on the tin".

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  • shabaz
    shabaz 3 months ago in reply to Andrew J

    Hi Andrew,

    Regarding motorized activator, that's an interesting point... I think a some of these crimp tools are made in what looks like two separate pieces of functionality, the top head part looks like it could be sold separately for factory automation, and the handle is attached for the manual versions.

    At least one Molex tool I have, looks like the head portion is separately manufactured and just requires a centre rod pulled down (i.e. easy to do for a motor) to activate, and the handles convert the lever motion into that centre motion.

    I guess that goes a long way to explain the cost, since effectively it's a factory-grade tool for hundreds of thousands of crimps, but are just sold with the handles also attached to make the manual version.

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    rscasny 3 months ago in reply to shabaz

    I didn't notice it at first until I saw molex sells "crimping heads." So, I presume you can buy a different head for a different crimp-terminal size, type, etc.

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    Andrew J 3 months ago in reply to shabaz

    That’s interesting info Shabaz and makes sense. 

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    Andrew J 3 months ago in reply to shabaz

    That’s interesting info Shabaz and makes sense. 

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