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Should Handheld multimeters have color LCD displays?

scottiebabe
scottiebabe over 2 years ago

As I am waiting for my OWON HDS242 to come in the mail, I thought I might ask other members how they feel about a handheld multimeter having a power hungry color LCD display.

The product webpage suggests a battery life of 3-6 hours. https://www.owon.com.hk/products_owon_hds200_series_digital_oscilloscope 

Even more interesting/exciting is the batteries can be recharged with a USB-C cable.

Based on Kerry Wong's teardown: http://www.kerrywong.com/2021/09/18/teardown-of-an-owon-hds272s-3-in-1-handheld-oscilloscope-dmm-awg-compared-with-hantek-2d72/ the multimeter functionality is galvanically isolated from the usb connector.

What do you think?

First time trying the poll feature, hopefully I didn't goof it!

Based on Kerry's notes the meter also has the bones of a real oscilloscope (ADC, FPGA, Sample memory, etc..) How performant is oscilloscope it? I don't know yet.... But I am intrigued!

Update: The scopemeter arrived!

Indoors the color LCD looks awesome! For me my multimeter ends up either sitting flat on my desk on in my lap and in both those cases the display is 10x easier to read than a segment LCD without a backlight.

Outdoors with direct sunlight the segment LCD is easier to read than the color LCD.

In the shade outdoors, I think both display technologies are equally legible.

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago +6
    So.... I'd say, "yes," but, I'd rather have a higher-quality monochrome than a lower-quality color. That said if I can slightly flex, a company called Kaitweets sent me one of their meters. These are…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago +4
    I voted Yes! although I don't know why I'd need it yet. In other instruments, colour has often been a gimmick in the beginning. But then real good use was found for it. I put my money on this: "in a…
  • dang74
    dang74 over 2 years ago +4
    I voted yes, but it was in context to the additional information that was provided, namely that in this case it's perfectly acceptable because the product also doubles as an oscilloscope. Should all manufacturers…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    BLE is super-handy for multimeters, there was recently a fairly low-cost (£50 from memory) Multicomp meter with BLE which I really wanted but it was out-of-stock. 

    I've got a couple of instruments with scope-like displays but monochrome (I had an old digital 'scope with monochrome display too, and it worked well apart from it could never have features like persistence on CRT scopes, so colour becomes a lot more important then). One instrument with nice UI is a chart recorder, it has portrait-mode display : ) so that the traces can be nicely separated in monochrome.

    image (image source: google images)

    A nicely laid-out display, and perhaps a menu or more buttons could be nice in a multimeter, since the complex features get hard to recall how to configure.

    Colour would then be icing on the cake, but if it could be bright and readable : ) 

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    The BLE DMM to PC pioneer is in this thread ;)  MP730026 DMM BLE Tutorial using Python  still works Slight smile

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    That's the one, thank you! And nice article by baldengineer 

    I just checked, it is back in stock, and really good price currently.. £32 + tax. I have ordered it, if I'm lucky I might receive that in time to try it before the weekend.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe
    scottiebabe said:
    Do you still need a rotary selection switch? I don't know...

    For a handheld, I still think it's the ergonomic winner.
    Meter in one hand, turning the switch with the other. Just looking from the corner of your eye is enough to see if it's correct (if you know your meter)

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  • robogary
    robogary over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    The DVMs are a pain to change the 9v battery, but most models have auto-shutoff, and the battery lasts a pretty long time. BLE seems to work well and useful for higher voltage stuff greater than 230V, usually I'm not messing with a USB & PC when troubleshoot using a dvm. 

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    How about a touch screen - operate with just one hand?

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago

    There is no denying I got a warm fuzzy feeling when I powered on the scopemeter for the first time! But who doesn’t like getting new shinny things, or better yet, new test gear!
    Ohh Scottie what frequencies does your induction cooktop switch at?
    Let me make a loop antenna with my scope probe and measure it with my OWON HDS242 scopemeter:

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    Between 19 kHz and 36 kHz. LOL


    I definitely love having a bright color display! Will I love the battery life that is the question!!

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    are yoou sure that the signal form isn't an aliasing artifact?

    (what I actually wanted to say: cool meter!!!!)

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Yes lol, I had tried to take other screen shots but do to user error, I only later I realized the meter doesn't automatically increment the image finename number (and you only seem to get 4 bmps lol)

    You can see the drive amplitude has a 120 Hz envelope (8.3 ms) to maintain a near unity power factor:

    image

    https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/content/dam/toshiba-ss-v3/master/en/semiconductor/design-development/innovationcentre/whitepapers/TCM0542_GT20N135SRA.pdf 

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    It may work excellent too. I have some kind of test bed:

    The Keithley DMM6500 has colour display and touch screen. Not a perfect example because it's a bench meter. But in essence a DMM with colour and touch.

    I am fluent with operating it, and think it has a good interface. But I need more attention/focus, and typically am spending all attention to the screen and my finger's actions, when I manipulate the meter. Also for simple actions like a range change. 

    (same with a physical calculator, and a simulator of that very calculator on my phone's screen: I am an order of magnitude slower on the touch screen)

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