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Should a reviewer keep a $20K Oscilloscope?

scottiebabe
scottiebabe over 2 years ago

I am just putting the thought out there, that I think a reviewer keeping a $20K oscilloscope is too much.

When an automotive journalist reviews a vehicle, its my understanding typically they return the vehicle afterwards (perhaps that’s not always the case).

I have not seen a review on element14 that I believe is any way deserving of such a reward.

I do believe a reviewer should be rewarded in some form for taking the time and effort to produce a quality review. But I think the reward would have one less zero in its value.

I think there are a lot of other creative opportunities to help see the community grow and flourish.

I don’t intend to say anymore than this.

But I do hope you take a second look at how the terms and conditions for the MXO4 review are defined.

Just a thought...

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 2 years ago +6
    I don't have a problem with the ethics or the practicalities of keeping the review devices. Producing a decent review is a time consuming task and in the case of some of the higher value items requires…
  • cstanton
    cstanton over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps +6
    I wouldn't expect any difference, my point was that setting the youtube flag for sponsored content prevents adverts being shown and hence prevents earning revenue for the youtube creator.
  • colporteur
    colporteur over 2 years ago +4
    I have pondered being on the receiving end of expensive equipment. Part of my struggle is self-depreciation. Why do I deserve such a reward compared to other contributors with more knowledge and experience…
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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 2 years ago

    It's difficult because there's value involved. Especially with the current 'cost of living crisis' invites questions, and also makes it difficult. How can someone ensure that a person offering to RoadTest such equipment is genuine? How can you guarantee that there's the appropriate value from the review to justify it?

    There are obviously reasons why there are laws around this.

    With items that are valued at $20k I believe you're entering realms of shows such as 'Top Gear' with supercars, it's unlikely that Jeremy Clarkson will keep fancy supercars (not that they couldn't afford them themselves) but there are certain realms where items should be considered to be on loan for a RoadTest rather than given away. I've seen YouTube reviewers do this (though I wonder if they try to circumvent being a 'sponsored' video by saying they didn't receive anything of value, but I would argue that the opportunity is still of value).

    My view doesn't reflect the decisions and views of the entire Community team, but they're certainly views that I express to the team for their consideration and I've brought up that the terms and conditions should be considered to change for items to be loaned when they're above a certain value.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to cstanton
    cstanton said:
    there are certain realms where items should be considered to be on loan for a RoadTest rather than given away. I've seen YouTube reviewers do this (though I wonder if they try to circumvent being a 'sponsored' video by saying they didn't receive anything of value

    EEVblog gets both kind of items for review, in this range. He sometimes gets "keeper instruments" sent to him, for review. And sometimes on loan that the manufacturer picks back up. I have not spotted any difference in the reviews. What I have spotted, is that the keepers keep on being used in later projects/videos. Sometimes years later. While the returners obviously stop being used once they are returned.

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    cstanton over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I wouldn't expect any difference, my point was that setting the youtube flag for sponsored content prevents adverts being shown and hence prevents earning revenue for the youtube creator.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to cstanton

    yes, true.

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I think that's a relevant point. If Dave Jones was sitting in a cubicle farm would he be approached for a review to be emailed in return, not likely.

    Companies send test equipment to the EEVBlog corporates towers primarily for dave to give screen time to his audience. Dave is a bright charismatic talented electronics nerd adored by 100k's who spent years building an audience.

    The review is going to seen by a wide audience because of the elment14 community not because of the notoriety of reviewer.

    I'm not suggesting reviewers don't provide value, just not sure 20K worth. I also respect others see it different.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe
    scottiebabe said:

    I think that's a relevant point. If Dave Jones was sitting in a cubicle farm would he be approached for a review to be emailed in return, not likely.

    Companies send test equipment to the EEVBlog corporates towers primarily for dave to give screen time to his audience. Dave is a bright charismatic talented electronics nerd adored by 100k's who spent years building an audience.

    That is most likely true for many things he receives. Based on his view count and reach breadth, marketing departments may go crazy (the first time Blush).

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Have you sent in goodies to the mailbag ? Should we send an elment14 Christmas card lol

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    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Have you sent in goodies to the mailbag ? Should we send an elment14 Christmas card lol

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    I never have. It's one of my favourites though (and now *every one's favourite segment ----  MAILBAG*).

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