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I sometimes go down information rabbit holes - did you know there are 17 known forms of ice?

cstanton
cstanton over 2 years ago

Ice formed from your typical water found in the seas, oceans and taps, is called "ice-i" or 'ice one'.

Fantastically, it was only recently discovered, that there are up to 17 forms of ice, and in 2016 there was the discover of "Ice XVII".

"Ice XVII is a metastable form of ice with a hexagonal structure and helical channels that was discovered in 2016. It can be formed by freezing water with hydrogen molecules at high pressure to form a filled ice, and then removing the hydrogen molecules from the structure. The form has potential for being used in hydrogen storage. Ice XVII made from heavy water[a] can also be reduced to pure cubic ice"

taken from wikipedia

This discovery was born out of a light hearted debate that water is lava, because it's a liquid rock, and ice is simply a form of rock. This isn't strictly true of course, because in the geological sense, the mineral make-up and form of rock changes when it goes from liquid to solid, and even expels part of itself as a gas. I then asked OpenAI's ChatGPT if water can form a solid from high pressure and heat, and discovered ice has different forms and they have, rather uninspired names.

Still, it was fun to discover that there are at least 17 forms of ice.

What information rabbit-holes have you gone down?

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago +1
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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 2 years ago +1
    I'm going with "Almost every one." Very often, as the computer is shutting down, I think "Argh! I got on here to look up x..." Rare is the day that I don't chase a rabbit or two (or more).
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo +1
    Been there...done that....
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    anniel747 over 2 years ago
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    kmikemoo over 2 years ago

    I'm going with "Almost every one."  Very often, as the computer is shutting down, I think "Argh!  I got on here to look up x..."  Rare is the day that I don't chase a rabbit or two (or more).

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  • rsc
    rsc over 2 years ago

    There are many types of fog also:

    http://weathertogether.net/weather-101/the-different-types-of-fog/

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago

    I spend a lot of time in rabbit holes, but there are 2 kinds of rabbit hole:

    1. rabbit holes where you are trying to solve an obstinate problem and go down dead end rabbit holes where the only thing you learn is that it is a dead end
    2. rabbit holes where you go off on wild tangents that aren't going to solve the problem but they look interesting and end up "wasting" a lot of time

    I like type 2 rabbit holes even though they take a lot of time ..... type 1 not so much...Relaxed

    Ice may depend on which language you are using to describe ice. In Nunavik they have at least 93 different words to describe ice. For example they might have a single word that translates roughly as "ice that can be pierced by a harpoon".

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Been there...done that....Rage

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  • robogary
    robogary over 2 years ago

    I rabbit hole on every project I submit to Project 14. Which type of ice does James Bond request in his shaken not stirred martini ? 

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  • robogary
    robogary over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    "Arghhhhhhhh"  Was it talk like a pirate day ? 

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    For a while, I stopped keeping my phone in the bedroom so I would stop looking up random things while trying to fall asleep. I kept a notebook on the nightstand to jot down my questions. 

    Then I started doodling. And then I started working out problems that I added earlier in the day. 

    Soon the cycle will start again. 

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 2 years ago in reply to anniel747

    "Ice XIX is a proposed crystalline phase of water"

    Well now they're just hoping to find new types...

    "Square ice crystals form at room temperature when squeezed between two layers of graphene."

    This one caught my attention, square ice crystals? Graphene?

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  • DAB
    DAB over 2 years ago

    I knew there were a lot of different types of ice, but not that many.

    Just goes to show you that the solid form of water comes in many varieties.

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