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Feedback Requested: When you use the search box - how do you expect it to behave?

cstanton
cstanton over 1 year ago

Hello everyone!

On the element14 Community, we have a search bar at the top of every page. This is standard Verint Community behaviour. 

There are only a few aspects of how this behaves that we can control, and the subject of this discussion is:

Do you expect to be able to search the entire Community when you type into the search bar? Or do you expect only to search within where you have navigated to?

Let me explain.

When you're on the homepage, element14 Community and you type into the search bar, you will search across the Community site and you will see a filter list:

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This has the default of searching 'all' and you can filter it by what the search considers the 'top' groups applications, in this case, we're searching for "Raspberry Pi".

Unfortunately, this can be limiting because if the group or application in the group you want to filter by doesn't appear, then you can't really select it and you're forced to go to an advanced search (by hitting enter).

If we instead browse to  RoadTests & Reviews and type in "Raspberry Pi" the search will default to only within RoadTests & Reviews:

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If you then want it to search 'anywhere' you have to click the filter 'anywhere'

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Searching in this manner makes it easier to search within a specified group. As we have seen if we're on the homepage, it is harder to search within a specified group if the filter for that group does not appear in the drop-down search box.

The question to put to you is:

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 1 year ago +4
    I too feel the same as some others. I rarely use it, and when I do, I often can't find what I need. I think it should search the entire site, not just a single group.
  • javagoza
    javagoza over 1 year ago +3
    The search system is really "special", it took me quite a while to get used to it to be able to obtain useful results. Now I feel comfortable with it and I wouldn't change it but it's hard to understand…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago +3
    I voted for 'Yes, I expect to search across the Community by default'. I don't use the search very much. Recently I tried to find some of my own content that way (experimenting with measuring total gate…
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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago

    I voted for 'Yes, I expect to search across the Community by default'.

    I don't use the search very much. Recently I tried to find some of my own content that way (experimenting with measuring total gate charge of a MOSFET), but it only threw up a few results, none of them mine. After fiddling around trying better search terms, I suddenly remembered that your search depends on where you do it from. A quick switch to the home page and I was there (top result, too, though I did know the right search terms to use).

    The reason I didn't initially just navigate straight to the content was because it was in your 'landfill site' where you tipped all the old personal blogs.

    It is a shame that someone searching within the site on that topic might not find it unless they knew it existed and knew to search in a particular way for it. Against that, of course, is that people would find it from outside using the regular search engines.

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 1 year ago in reply to jc2048

    FWIW, It just occurred to me that "site:community.element14.com" would work on Google as well as it does for other sites. My first result is your post:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acommunity.element14.com+measure+total+gate+charge+of+mosfet

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago in reply to baldengineer

    I'm a little bemused that a somewhat scrappy, almost throw-away blog by a MOSFET non-expert features so prominently. Let's hope what I did was roughly right and I'm not misleading the students of the world too much.

    A more general search on total+gate+charge (on DuckDuckGo - I don't use Google because I don't agree to their terms and conditions and refuse to gift them the rights to all my content to use how they wish) throws up all the major semiconductor manufacturers before I get a look-in, so at least people will be getting the theory from a more reliable source than me.

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago in reply to baldengineer

    I'm a little bemused that a somewhat scrappy, almost throw-away blog by a MOSFET non-expert features so prominently. Let's hope what I did was roughly right and I'm not misleading the students of the world too much.

    A more general search on total+gate+charge (on DuckDuckGo - I don't use Google because I don't agree to their terms and conditions and refuse to gift them the rights to all my content to use how they wish) throws up all the major semiconductor manufacturers before I get a look-in, so at least people will be getting the theory from a more reliable source than me.

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 1 year ago in reply to jc2048

    The site filter trick works on DuckDuckGo as well...

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