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Is General Artificial Intelligence a Breakthrough or just a Financial Hype?

HKPhysicist
HKPhysicist 14 days ago

According to my understanding, AI hype big corps spend a whole country's energy resource to produce learning software and hardware which can do a very little things for us.  Laughing

On the other hands, a parrot can learn how to talk with men with just a few grams of nutrition.  Also, my little puppy learnt how to do simple house hood things for me in just a few minutes and a few grams fo nutrition. Blush

Which one of these examples are more intelligent and energy efficient?

Had we better use those astronomical sum of money and resources on investigating deeper natural laws such as room temperature superconductivity, novel material and crystal, higher energy experiments beyond the Large Hadron Collider, nuclear fusion experiments, etc.?

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  • DAB
    DAB 12 days ago +3
    The thing about Hype is that you create a Fear of Missing Out among the technologist who really do not understand the technology involved. I have been following AI for over 45 years and it has never…
  • battlecoder
    battlecoder 14 days ago +1
    Unfortunately right now the tech industry is heavily investing in large language models, even when they are not the kind of AI that is helping science. As far as I understand, the cost of running those…
  • robogary
    robogary 14 days ago +1
    Investors invest to make money. Material science is definitely worthwhile if it solves a problem. AI investment does surprisingly subtle things - like channeling advertising to those with a certain product…
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  • BigG
    BigG 14 days ago

    IMHO it's not hype. Over the past 30 years I've seen various forms of software being developed by various teams. It's typically a case (generalising here) of you get about 90% done quickly and then it takes you about 9 times longer to close out that last 10% as best you can. It's somewhat messy, inherently buggy and pretty slow. I'm experiencing first hand that with the help of AI you are getting to about 98% done in about 50% of that initial 10% of time and then the final 2% is done in about 3 times longer than that initial phase. So overall, quality improved and time saving massive. The amount of resource required is also substantially reduced although you definitely need experienced resource to achieve. Junior engineers and AI is a toxic mix at this stage simply because they don't recognise the problems... and AI at the moment needs direction. It's power at the mo. is comprehension (reading and interpreting 100 page docs in seconds).

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  • HKPhysicist
    HKPhysicist 6 days ago in reply to BigG

    To view recent AI tech from the insider viewpoint, please watch the dialogue between a reporter and an ex-X-AI top engineering/programmer.

    The man, who "carelessly" disclosed certain hidden agenda and tie between X-AI and Tesla, claimed that they, as X-AI software programmers, were requested to start programming from the beginning definition.  They were not allowed to use AI assistant to code.

    When they interviewed new potential employees with a certain software task, if the participant tried to code with the help of AI, this participant would then be filtered away.

    I forgot his name, a recently fired ex-X-AI software programmer.  He was fired because he leaked certain secret strategical tie between X-AI and Tesla.

    You should be able to find this video on Youtube or some paid video channels which tend to keep erased video clips.Zipper mouth

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    Jan Cumps 6 days ago in reply to HKPhysicist

    When you go into complot mode, please link to the source.

    HKPhysicist said:
    You should be able to find this video on Youtube or some paid video channels

    Not convincing for a big claim.

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    BigG 6 days ago in reply to HKPhysicist

    I don't quite understand the point you are trying to make.

    My opinion is biased by the fact that I've got many years under the belt, so manual coding has become a bit mundane. AI certainly helps me on that front. I also have the experience to direct AI to go on certain paths of choice and identify issues. A junior software engineer on the other hand, may well have exceptional knowledge of the coding language but IMO lacks the broader experience to see errors. So, IMO, they will struggle to get the same benefit from AI as I do, no matter if they are an insider or not.

    Hence I see this as a huge breakthrough.

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    BigG 6 days ago in reply to HKPhysicist

    I don't quite understand the point you are trying to make.

    My opinion is biased by the fact that I've got many years under the belt, so manual coding has become a bit mundane. AI certainly helps me on that front. I also have the experience to direct AI to go on certain paths of choice and identify issues. A junior software engineer on the other hand, may well have exceptional knowledge of the coding language but IMO lacks the broader experience to see errors. So, IMO, they will struggle to get the same benefit from AI as I do, no matter if they are an insider or not.

    Hence I see this as a huge breakthrough.

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