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HiFi in the late 70s

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps 1 day ago

The late 70s are often mentioned as the golden age of HiFi. And I'm a music and music gear lover since forever.
To remind me of what music sounded like in the days, I've made a setup of analog gear of the era. Using decent gear, well maintained.
We've come a long way Slight smile.

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Currently listening to a 1977 recording of the 5th Beethoven Symphony, on a really good turntable (mid-60s Thorens), a good stereo (later 70s Kenwood), and - then - high end Koss headphones.
The industry evolved. Obviously by going digital. But also in the headphones department.
The turntable and amplifier, paired with a decent set of speakers, still sound very good. Pleasing to the modern ear. But I guess that no one would appreciate the headset - one that got very good reviews in the later 70s - these days.

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When listening to the same chain, with decent speakers of the late 70s, all sounds good. Although I 'd like to argue it sounds better with contemporary affordable  speakers.

This exercise helps me to value how music love, and the feel for quality, is partly perception.
Is it the sound quality that changed, or how we like to hear sound?

My personal (warning) opinion: 
Source: Sound quality improved with digital sound sources. Excellent reproduction, without the mechanical quirks. Fidelity somewhat. Reliability, affordability and ease of using it: a lot.
Amplifier: Not that much improvement in sound quality. A lot of improvement in the same quality per Watt burned (see class-D).
Speakers: normal good speakers these days, I think, are better than the best speakers of the golden era.
Headphones: that technology improved a lot too. The headsets I used were (and still are) lusted after. But a decent (not expensive) pair of headphones you get now, will be way better. I doubt if anyone would appreciate the sound of my Koss headphones today.

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Gear used.:

Record: Beethoven's 5th, Berliner Philharmoniker; Karajan, 1977
Turntable: Thorens TD-124 MKII
Amplifier: Kenwood KR-4400
Headphones: Koss KO-727s
Speakers to compare with: Celestion Ditton 15XR
All pre-1980, all in excellent condition

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 2 hours ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Some background and photos here: 

    From Grateful Dead to Dead & Co

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeaZU9JN0n4

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  • dang74
    dang74 4 hours ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Nice.  I saw something similar in a record store this summer.  At 138kg that might stretch the two man carry goal. 

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 6 hours ago in reply to dang74

    How about a pair of Tannoy Prestige Westminster Royal GR loudspeakers.

    At around 138kg each, they aren't going to blow away in the wind.

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    They should also satisfy your financial requirements Slight smile

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  • neilk
    neilk 7 hours ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I am sure my ears have adapted and my memory of how good 1970's gear sounded has a rose coloured tint, if you'll pardon the mixed metaphor,

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps 7 hours ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Thin Lizzy Metal

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  • dang74
    dang74 8 hours ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    But I am a sucker for the aesthetics.... especially the ones with the blue backlighting.  I am looking for something that is sturdy.  We're talking two man lift and undoubtedly I'll be paying by the pound Laughing 

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 13 hours ago

    This my current setup. There are lots of other bits and pieces not currently connected and I swap stuff around quite often.

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    The Dennon amplifier is just used as a pre-amp and drives two Behringer KM750 power amps via an UltraDrive Pro, which splits bandwidths between the two pairs of speakers, and an UltraCurve Pro, which equalises the signal for the Bose 901 speakers. The crossover frequency is about 150 Hz.

    These are Series 2 Bose 901 (approx 1974) speakers which were marketed as full range 400W capable and came with an equaliser to boost the bass (by about 15dB at the maximum). They have 9 drive units one on the 'front' face and 4 each on the two angled 'rear' faces. I use them the wrong way round with the 8 drive units facing forward and the Ultra Curve Pro replaces the Bose analogue equaliser.

    The 901s have been re-painted and covered by me. 

    The AR SRT 380 speakers are unusual for AR and are a bass reflex design rather than their usual closed box. They are quite efficient and not to bad used on their own. This set up was used for my Daughter's wedding in February and I quite like to sound of it - so it's remained like this ever since.

    For sensible listening the Dennon driving the AR speakers is quite nice.

    Lower down there are a couple of cassette decks (hardly ever used and a tuner (used even less)).

    The turntable is nothing special (but is reliable) and the cartridge is quite nice (Goldring 1012GX).

    I listen more to CD than vinyl.

    MK

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  • wolfgangfriedrich
    wolfgangfriedrich 20 hours ago

    Related unrelated:

    The story of a modern audio company (SHIIT AUDIO) told by one of its founders. It's about start-ups, audio gear, engineering, audiophile. 

    I am enjoying this read a lot and I am only at 2016, one chapter per lunch break. 

    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/

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  • wolfgangfriedrich
    wolfgangfriedrich 22 hours ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Also, KISS admitted to have replayed most of the songs for their famous Alive! album because the live recordings were so bad. 

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 23 hours ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    You can find the cabinet specs here: WPS

    and the amp specs here: iK81

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