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  • Date Created: 20 Dec 2018 5:59 AM Date Created
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Experimenting with Auto Tap Selection for a Future Power Supply Build

jw0752
jw0752
20 Dec 2018

When a linear power supply is in operation the DC output voltage is regulated. The internal regulator circuit of the power supply takes its source voltage and produces a resistive voltage drop using its power control transistor so that the output voltage is at the desired level.  The difference in voltage potential between the source voltage and the output voltage is a critical quantity as it is one of the two factors in the wasted energy that must be dissipated by the power supply.

 

For example lets say that our source voltage is 30 Volts and we have our linear power supply set so that it is supplying 10 volts at 1 Amp to an external load. If we calculate the power that the load is consuming we get Watts = Amps times Volts or 1 Amp times 10 Volts = 10 Watts.  On the other hand the power supply has to waste the internal voltage drop of 20 Volts times 1 Amp or 20 Watts. This wasted energy is dissipated as heat in the heat sink and into the environment around the power supply. Suppose however, if instead of 30 volts for a source we were able to have 15 Volts. In this case we would still have the 10 Volts at 1 Amp output for 10 Watts but now the internal voltage drop is only 5 Volts so the amount of wasted heat is only 1 Amp times 5 Volts or 5 Watts of power.

 

This is the purpose behind having a way to select different transformer taps for the source voltage of a linear supply as the output voltage is turned up. This selection process keeps the source voltage closer to the output voltage and therefore the amount of heat that must be dissipated and wasted is kept to a minimal level. If you have a power supply that has relay controlled transformer tap selection you may hear the relays clicking in and out as the voltage output is increased or decreased.

 

Up until now I have always built power supplies with one source voltage and then used large heat sinks and fans in anticipation of the need to dissipate larger quantities of heat but I knew there was a better way and so tonight I experimented with building a simple circuit that would select between a 12 volt AC Tap and a 24 Volt AC tap. In doing this I would have a power supply where the DC source voltage was never more than 15 volts higher than the output voltage of the power supply.

 

Here is a schematic of the circuit that I built.

 

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One of the first things that I determined was that the selection circuit must be powered with a power source of its own that is electrically isolated from the transformer that drives the Linear Power Supply Board. This can be a separate transformer or a separate winding on the main transformer. The choice of which AC transformer tap to route to the Linear Power Supply board is made based on the DC voltage level that is fed back to the LM393 comparator from the DC output of the PS board. If the DC output voltage is less than 12 Volts the tap circuit chooses the 12 volt AC tap. Once the DC voltage exceeds 12.5 Volts the 24  Volt AC tap is selected and the power supply board has a DC source Voltage closer to 31 Volts.

 

Note that the RMS AC voltage from the transformer will produce a DC voltage that is a bit less than the AC voltage times 1.4. This is why it may seem that I am talking about DC voltages that are higher than the AC voltages. Some of the source DC voltage is lost in the voltage drops of the diodes that rectify the AC voltage.

 

I will attach a video that demonstrates the operation of the circuit as I turn up and down the output voltage of the the Linear Power Supply.

 

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I anticipated that for my purposes this circuit will have application limited to two or possibly three taps as finding salvage transformers that are designed for this application is difficult and I am not likely to spring the $ for a new transformer that is properly tapped. The number of taps can be expanded by stacking the LM393 sections and having each monitor a different voltage and drive a separate relay that is dedicated to that tap.

 

Before I close out this blog I wanted to mention that recently the vendor of the Chinese power supply board that I have used in a lot of my builds has chosen to down grade the quality of the boards and the components supplied with the boards. They are still being marketed with the name "Original Hiland 0 - 30 Volt Power Supply" but they are not. In one case even the picture of the original was left on the marketing ad but what came in the mail was not good.

 

The original board  on the left and the cheap substitute on the right  looks like this:

 

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I have had nothing but good luck with the Original board as pictured on the left. The new board on the right has poor quality components. The first one I built did not work, defective TL 081 Op Amp as well as the other complaints that I have noted.

 

John

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz +5
    John, great. As always I have a design question: You have a common ground and a direct feed from the supply. The relay isolates the circuit partly but there’s a backpath. you should not need a separate…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago +4
    Hi John, Excellent piece of work, and nice demo. I've been trying to give this idea some thought a while back too, and came to the conclusion that for more taps, I'd have to wind my own secondary, but…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 6 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps +4
    Hi Jan, Thanks for the excellent points. I will think about them today and respond more fully this evening. The problem that I had with using a common transformer (winding) seemed to relate to the issue…
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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago

    Hi John,

     

    Excellent piece of work, and nice demo. I've been trying to give this idea some thought a while back too, and came to the conclusion that for more taps, I'd have to wind my own secondary, but that is still worthwhile doing. In many ways it complicates a PSU, but it also simplifies it, so it could still be worth it.

    It is an interesting problem doing it with relays, and one I've not entirely worked out, but in a nutshell some of the issues I could see were safety related (this is not an issue for your system because you are using a single SPDT relay) to ensure that if there are more taps and relays, then a faulty relay must cause protection to kick in in the event of secondary side shorts caused by other relays switching in, and also how to reduce the relay switching current (otherwise all the relays need to be quite large). I did have a few ideas to solve these issues, but the resulting PSU would be very experimental, and not be very general-purpose, and I might need to sacrifice a few transformers for the safety tests which makes it expensive to even prototype, so for these reasons it's on the back-burner, although I wish to pursue it sometime.

    It's very cool how you managed to retrofit this dual-switching system to the PSU design.

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    jw0752 over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Hi Shabaz,

     

    Here is my concept for the bank of relays that could be used to select the transformer taps:

     

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    If I am thinking about this clearly it is a robust design with a low probability of shorting taps together. It would be necessary for 2 relay Throws to be shorted for a tap to tap connection. I have over the years seen relays where there is a pole to throw weld that locks the relay into one position or another but I do not recall an instance where there was a Throw to Throw short.

     

    three-phase had an interesting idea about using a Variac that was automated to keep the AC voltage just ahead of the DC output voltage. I had never considered that before.

     

    It is fun to explore the possibilities even if they do not turn out to be practical. There is always something to learn from the experiment.

     

    John

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    jw0752 over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Hi Shabaz,

     

    Here is my concept for the bank of relays that could be used to select the transformer taps:

     

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    If I am thinking about this clearly it is a robust design with a low probability of shorting taps together. It would be necessary for 2 relay Throws to be shorted for a tap to tap connection. I have over the years seen relays where there is a pole to throw weld that locks the relay into one position or another but I do not recall an instance where there was a Throw to Throw short.

     

    three-phase had an interesting idea about using a Variac that was automated to keep the AC voltage just ahead of the DC output voltage. I had never considered that before.

     

    It is fun to explore the possibilities even if they do not turn out to be practical. There is always something to learn from the experiment.

     

    John

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to jw0752

    Hi John,

     

    You're right, it is a robust solution, and would not cause any shorts I think!

    It will be fun to try these ideas out sometime, unfortunately Xmas hols are already now getting busy!

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