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Solder Iron for Ivan with a built in Timeout

jw0752
jw0752
14 Dec 2015

     Ever since I helped Grandson Ivan, age 9, with his school Science Project, See Grandson, Ivan, and the Volcano Science Project , I have continued to feed his curiosity and enthusiasm for electronics. So far, in addition to the Volcano Project, we have built a line following robot kit, a Ninja detector on a bread board, and several other small projects that he could take to school for show and tell. One day we took an old cassette deck apart. Ivan was immediately hooked on salvaging and his supportive Mom has been finding old pieces of equipment for him to tear apart. I only get to see Ivan on the weekends and sometimes it is only every other week but we really make the best of our time together. He must have some really good nerd genes as he can stay with me alert and focused on learning electronics for 5 hours straight. I think my previous record with some of his older cousins is about 45 minutes before they nod off.


     As Ivan's interest did not seem to wane I decided it was time to get him more involved in soldering. Even though he shows a lot of maturity in his ability to focus and learn I did not feel comfortable giving him a regular soldering iron to take home as I was afraid he would leave it on and forget it. (Grandpas worry about such things) So I got him involved in helping me design a modification to an old solder iron that would allow us the following functions:


Turn ON with a push button

Turn OFF with a different push button

LED to indicate when the iron is powered

Switch to choose between high and low wattage

Automatic turn off after 30 minutes.


     I told Ivan that we would make his solder iron and then we would use it to build our own small bench power supply for his own shop. We began by coming up with some plans that we could bread board and try out.


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Here is one of our test circuits This first circuit used one section of an LM339 for a comparator of an RC timer circuit The final design will use a single  LM311MLM311M comparator The small sound module on the right side of the board is part of the discharge path of the capacitor This gives us a small beep every time the circuit shuts down The beep reminds us to turn the iron back on if we are still using it at the time One of the challenges of this project was how we were going to find a power supply for the timer small enough to fit into the case of the solder iron holder we planned to use The answer came when we decided to salvage a small 12 volt switching supply board from a wall wart power supply


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I did not want to deprive Ivan of any part of the design process but I decided that there was plenty of time for him to learn the details and I did not want to get bogged down trying to solve the problems we all know constantly crop up during the build process. At least in these early stages of his learning I wanted things to flow smoothly, more like assembly of a well designed kit. Therefore in the days between Ivan's visits I busied myself planning and preparing the parts so that the assembly would go smoothly. A new control panel fascia was made for the solder iron and the holes were positioned and drilled for the switches and indicator LED. With Ivan's help the controls were installed and the unit began to take shape.


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In the week leading up to Ivan coming today I continued to experiment with the circuit. I had originally hoped that the unit would have zero current draw in the off position but in the end the only way I could assure that we had the space for needed components was to leave the wall wart, 12 volt power supply, on and waiting for use. This would mean that the unit would draw 2 mA in the off mode just as most wall warts do when plugged in but not in use. While this doesn't sit perfectly well with my old fashioned idea that off should mean really off I guess that because so much of the appliances around me are really never truly off, I have gotten more used to the idea. When Ivan arrived today we got right down to business and began to assemble the the timer board which is the heart of the unit. Here is the schematic and circuit board layout that we used.


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Ivan looked at the bread board with all its components and asked if all those parts were really going to fit on the small Adafruit  board we were going to use. I explained that this is why it is important to make a good plan before starting. We began to prepare for soldering by teaching and reminding Ivan about some techniques for handling the iron and cleaning the tip. In the process we managed to give him his first "Solder Iron Burn". We ran cold water on it and put a band aid on it and all he seemed concerned with was getting back to work. Little by little we assembled the board, all the while discussing the components that were being used and what they do. Here is the completed board.


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The next step was to wire the assembled board, the power supply, and the switches together and fit them into the base of the solder iron.


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     With the unit finally assembled I explained to Ivan that we would probably be disappointed and we would likely have to take the unit apart again and find a mistake or two as this is my usual procedure.

He was eager to try it out so here he is pushing the START button for the first time.


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The power light came on, I was pleased. The Stop button worked, as did the 16W / 35W switch. Now it was just a matter of turning it on and waiting approximately 35 minutes for it to turn itself off. Ivan and I busied ourselves with cleaning the bench and putting away the tools while we waited. As the time got close I became concerned as it was almost time for Ivan to go home and I didn't want him to leave with a failure hanging over us. Finally there was the small beep of the discharging capacitor and the power light went out.

 

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With the soldering iron project under our belts Ivan and my next project will be a small safe power  supply for his bench so we can get him started building small circuits on his own, at home, between his visits to me. Hopefully we will have some extra time together over the Christmas Holidays.

 

John

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 9 years ago +2
    John, you outdo yourself! CD4060B | Counter/Arithmetic/Parity Function | Specialty Logic | Description & parametrics is another way to achieve your delay. Another idea is to use a capacitance multiplier…
  • CrazyFace
    CrazyFace over 9 years ago +2
    Absolutely love reading yours and Ivan's project blog's, Its so hard to get the kids today to show an interest, I lost my granddad at age 9 and luckily for me he had passed most of his knowledge onto my…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to CrazyFace +2
    Hi Mark, Thank you for your encouragement. I have 12 grandkids that range in age from 23 to 9. Ivan, the youngest, is the first one to show a real interest and I am very happy about it. It seems that interest…
  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    John, if only you shared the confidence in you that I enjoy!  I was being lazy and hoping you would whip out your SPICE like you do for the other fellows.  Now I will have to.  I'm thinking we can avoid saturation by toggle XOR-ing the inputs periodically, or treating saturation as a special case, if necessary.

     

    I've read somewhere recently that if one comes off too humbly, his fellows will reckon he is shamming.  Although accusing a 'sconnie of disingenuousity is seemingly problematic, this whole chaos topic is, in a sense, looking for behavior seemingly more complex than the hardware at hand could host at first glance. jk

     

    I've been accused of being a 'great sideways thinker' on occasion, but there is rarely a practical positive outcome of this.  Even in the limited arena of E14 you hold a 7 rating while I am a mere 6, exponentially poorer in the coin of the realm.  We aren't getting paid for this, so the reward must be hormonal.  Status, Mr 7, brings serotonin.

     

    We are all set up differently.  Perhaps you are wired to put one foot in front of the other, judging by outcomes.  Anyway, with the dynamics of my family situ I must matriculate to becoming the breadwinner.  This is reality for me, a goal for which I hope to denominate in real terms rather than symbolic ones, anyway a binary outcome, a test.

     

    Perhaps a test of my neuro-plasticity budget, perhaps a test of my aggression.  Perhaps a mere search for markets. . .

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    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Hi Don,

    Without more information I can't tell if the series would converge, diverge, or be chaotic. I suspect with a little planning you might be able to make a chaotic system with timers. This thought train is way beyond my comfort level at this point though. I do best just to stick to trying to learn a little more basic electronics and leave the big concepts to the big thinkers.

    John

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    D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    Interesting to imagine the simpler circuits that could be chaotic.  I am thinking of three presettable  counters.  Initially they are jam-loaded with random values, but when they time out they are loaded, say, with the sum or product of the other two counters and restarted  Would that be chaotic?  I've got to find it in here without triggering a crapulanch, but I have recently acquired the book Elegant Chaos by Sprott.  Next, I will read it.

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    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    After I posted the last entry I looked at the date on the James Gleick book on Chaos and discovered it was 28 years ago that I read it. Yikes, seemed like just a year or two ago.

    John

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    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Hi Don,

    Hard to impugn what I don't have. If they are following me then it is probably already too late. What you doing up so late? I thought you young guys passed out around 10:00. I read a book a while back on Chaos Theory by James Gleick. It was very interesting.

    John

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