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  • Author Author: ralphjy
  • Date Created: 29 Aug 2019 4:19 AM Date Created
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CNC - First Try at Engraving

ralphjy
ralphjy
29 Aug 2019

I'm starting to get some experience with my CNC router and quickly learning that there are so many variables due to material, cutting tools, and individual machine capability that there will be quite a lot of trial and error.   As with most tools,  the only real way to get more proficient with them is to use the tool for an actual project.

 

I'm still looking for a tool flow that will work well for me.  I recently got an RPi4 and I 'm going to try to use that as my workshop computer.  I currently use a mishmash of different computers to support my 3D printer, the CNC router, and my development boards and digital oscilloscope.  I use a Mac Mini with my 3D printer, a Win10 box with the CNC and another Win10 box for application development and the oscilloscope.  An RPi4 with dual monitors seems like just the ticket to consolidating all this stuff.

 

As for a fabrication workflow, almost everything that I currently use or am considering has a Linux version.  The one notable exception is Fusion 360.  I haven't invested time learning Fusion 360 yet, so I'm going to postpone that until later.  I'll see how well I can do with FreeCad.  I'm sure I'll get back to Fusion 360 when my designs get more complex.  But even FreeCad has quite a learning curve and for a beginner it would be nice to separate hardware issues from software issues.  So, I've decided to start with some simpler programs to get a feel for different cutting tools and material with different machining operations.

 

I thought I'd start with some simple engraving to get a feel for spindle speed and feed rate for different tools and materials.  I found a program called F-Engrave by Scorchworks https://www.scorchworks.com/Fengrave/fengrave.html .   It's a pretty basic tool.  It does text engraving and v-carving with text and images.  I bought 1/4" birch veneer plywood slats from a local crafts store to practice.  For simple text I find that I like the look of solid line stick fonts rather than the two line silhouette fonts.  I downloaded a set of CAMBam stick fonts to use (the program uses true type fonts).  For engraving you need to manage the character spacing and depth based on the tool (cutting bit) that you are using, the program doesn't do any auto-adjusting but it does preview the effect of the settings.

 

This was a simple exercise but it surfaced a few issues.  The most significant one is the surface flatness of what I was engraving.  Part of it is the dimensional variation of the plywood, some of it is the flatness of my extruded bed, and a lot of it is due to the warp from clamping soft wood.  Secondly, I really don't have any feel for these cutting bits (also that I don't have a great selection to choose from).  You can see from the program setup that I'm using a very slow feed rate of 127 mm/min.  I'm using a 20 degree v-bit that came with the kit.  The 775 spindle motor that I have is rated at 3000-9000 RPM (12V-36V).   I'm running it at around 7000 rpm.

 

Here is my setup in F-Engrave (the spindle speed is set manually in the G-Code header).

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Rather than watching the CNC router cutting, I found it more interesting to watch the controller executing the toolpath.  For engraving the solid stick font the cutter makes precisely two passes for each segment.  The sequencing of the toolpath is pretty neat.  The F-Engrave program is written in Python.  It would be interesting to look at how it is implemented.

 

Here is the G-Code running in Candle (GRBL controller):

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And the finished output.  The cut is rough around the edges.  Next try will be to use an endmill instead of the v-bit.

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I can see that it is going to take me a few months and a lot of scrap to get somewhat proficient at this.

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  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 6 years ago +7
    That is really impressive work Ralph, well done. I'd be keen to make a similar setup. I've used wood routers before (the 1/4" and 1/2" chuck versions) but never any CNC of wood. The cut is rough around…
  • Fred27
    Fred27 over 6 years ago +6
    That looks good for a first attempt. As you've probably guessed, using an endmill prevents the cut width varying with depth. One thing to be careful of is that endmills do not cut well going straight down…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago +4
    Hi Ralph, That's a great start, it is already looking nice! Looking forward to seeing the enhancements as you progress. It will take time to be familiar with the capabilities and settings with different…
  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I think that I will order the LS02 safety glasses from Edmund.  Probably will be at the end of the month since I'm out on a couple of trips.  Let me know if you have any dissatisfaction when you get yours.

     

    Got me to thinking that I really should review my fire mitigation.  I'm sure my fire extinguishers are beyond their recommended lifespans and I've never recharged them.  Plus they are dry chemical.  I think that for this application maybe a small CO2 extinguisher would be good. 

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to ralphjy

    Hi Ralph,

     

    Their online chat is really helpful.. I had a similar experience with the UK support too. Incidentally I've got some normal workshop safety specs (i.e. just transparent, not laser-safe. I think it's these ones) that happen to be very close to those measurements, at 150x145x55 (the side overall being 145mm, but measured from the hinge only 120mm), and they are intended for specs underneath, they have no adjustment, but I find them extremely comfortable (and protective) even without wearing specs underneath, so personally I thought them better than the non-specs-underneath workshop specs.. plus they look better too : )

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    ralphjy over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Hi Shabaz,

     

    The links were very helpful.  I have been wondering whether or not I could trust the OD ratings on the Chinese glasses.  It's sort of funny because I haven't really dealt with Edmund Scientific since I was a youngster using microscopes and telescopes.  I used to buy a lot of lenses from them.  Let me know how the comfort glasses work for you.  I'll probably get the regular safety glasses to wear over my prescription glasses.  They don't have a spec on the frame size so I'll have to contact them.  The price looks about middle of the range of the more expensive glasses. 

     

    The person on the support chat said the dimensions of the regular frame are 144x145x50 mm but they will send me a follow up email with the adjustment length of the earpieces (hopefully they can shorten up a bit).

     

    Ralph

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 6 years ago

    ralphjy nice blog. It looks fine to me,  but a little buffing may help.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to ralphjy

    I looked for laser windows too, but anything optical is pricey : ( An analog camera and small TFT (e.g. intended for car use) could be cheaper.

    Some websites show little shields built around the laser, made from off-the-shelf 3mm orange tinted acrylic. I guess that could be useful as an experimental  line of defence (provided there's no fire risk with it - it could still be focussed enough at that close range to damage the acrylic I bet) if things went badly wrong with the main enclosure opened.

     

    Regarding safety glasses, I found this website:

    https://www.lia.org/evaluator/od.php

    that helps suggest the light-blocking density level for glasses. In the end I went for type LS02 from Edmund Optics with much higher optical density. It could be overkill, but the price didn't seem unreasonable for such a critical safety item.

    The LS02 is the lowest-cost type they sell, presumably because it only blocks one range of light (there are others for multiple areas of spectrum but at 2-3x the price).

    That LS02 type comes in three frame variants (all priced the same), and the website has the photos mixed : (  Anyway, I've annotated the photo below to show the names of the variants. I accidentally ordered 'comfort glasses' when 'goggles' and 'glasses' look like they will cover more. I cannot tell, I'll wait till it arrives and then try it out. The 'goggles' and 'glasses' can fit over prescription specs or reading glasses and look a lot more comfortable than the 'comfort glasses'.

     

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