element14 Community
element14 Community
    Register Log In
  • Site
  • Search
  • Log In Register
  • About Us
  • Community Hub
    Community Hub
    • What's New on element14
    • Feedback and Support
    • Benefits of Membership
    • Personal Blogs
    • Members Area
    • Achievement Levels
  • Learn
    Learn
    • Ask an Expert
    • eBooks
    • element14 presents
    • Learning Center
    • Tech Spotlight
    • STEM Academy
    • Webinars, Training and Events
    • Learning Groups
  • Technologies
    Technologies
    • 3D Printing
    • FPGA
    • Industrial Automation
    • Internet of Things
    • Power & Energy
    • Sensors
    • Technology Groups
  • Challenges & Projects
    Challenges & Projects
    • Design Challenges
    • element14 presents Projects
    • Project14
    • Arduino Projects
    • Raspberry Pi Projects
    • Project Groups
  • Products
    Products
    • Arduino
    • Avnet Boards Community
    • Dev Tools
    • Manufacturers
    • Multicomp Pro
    • Product Groups
    • Raspberry Pi
    • RoadTests & Reviews
  • Store
    Store
    • Visit Your Store
    • Choose another store...
      • Europe
      •  Austria (German)
      •  Belgium (Dutch, French)
      •  Bulgaria (Bulgarian)
      •  Czech Republic (Czech)
      •  Denmark (Danish)
      •  Estonia (Estonian)
      •  Finland (Finnish)
      •  France (French)
      •  Germany (German)
      •  Hungary (Hungarian)
      •  Ireland
      •  Israel
      •  Italy (Italian)
      •  Latvia (Latvian)
      •  
      •  Lithuania (Lithuanian)
      •  Netherlands (Dutch)
      •  Norway (Norwegian)
      •  Poland (Polish)
      •  Portugal (Portuguese)
      •  Romania (Romanian)
      •  Russia (Russian)
      •  Slovakia (Slovak)
      •  Slovenia (Slovenian)
      •  Spain (Spanish)
      •  Sweden (Swedish)
      •  Switzerland(German, French)
      •  Turkey (Turkish)
      •  United Kingdom
      • Asia Pacific
      •  Australia
      •  China
      •  Hong Kong
      •  India
      •  Korea (Korean)
      •  Malaysia
      •  New Zealand
      •  Philippines
      •  Singapore
      •  Taiwan
      •  Thailand (Thai)
      • Americas
      •  Brazil (Portuguese)
      •  Canada
      •  Mexico (Spanish)
      •  United States
      Can't find the country/region you're looking for? Visit our export site or find a local distributor.
  • Translate
  • Profile
  • Settings
Community Hub
Community Hub
Polls Would you build from a kit?
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • Documents
  • Quiz
  • Events
  • Leaderboard
  • Polls
  • Files
  • Members
  • Mentions
  • Sub-Groups
  • Tags
  • More
  • Cancel
  • New
Join Community Hub to participate - click to join for free!
Actions
  • Share
  • More
  • Cancel
Engagement
  • Author Author: dougw
  • Date Created: 2 Dec 2018 4:54 PM Date Created
  • Last Updated Last Updated: 11 Oct 2021 2:58 PM
  • Views 1805 views
  • Likes 1 like
  • Comments 30 comments
Related
Recommended

Would you build from a kit?

There have been many great projects published on element14 that were suitable for members to build, but there are very few who actually do. There have always been lots of hobbyists out there who want to build things. I think there are at least 2 or 3 gaps that prevent more uptake of good project builds:

  1. There are large numbers of people that will build from kits, as proven by Ikea. Those customers would not design their own furniture, but they will buy a complete kit and assemble it. Having a complete kit available for purchase is a significant key to better uptake.
  2. Build projects are not presented as DIY how-to instructions like Instructables. It is a whole separate project to turn a build project into a step-by-step build guide. Projects that come close to this on element14 have seen some uptake. For example PIK3A was the most popular build instruction I can remember and quite a few were built by members.
  3. Marketing - of course there are many, many ways to bring awareness and incentivise build participation. element14 does some of this, but this has not been a big focus at element14.

Speaking for myself as a potential builder of someone else's design, I would buy and build a kit if it was a nice design that I would find useful or attractive. If the build project lacks a kit and I wanted to build the idea, I would most likely re-design it my own way, but it would need to be a much more attractive idea due to the time commitment involved. The result is I would be far more likely to build a project if there was a complete kit available for purchase.

The question for this poll is:

Would you be significantly more likely to build a project that was published on element14 if a complete kit of parts and software was available for purchase?

Please list other factors and requirements in the comments below.

  • build incentives
  • doug wong
  • project kits
  • Share
  • History
  • More
  • Cancel
  • Sign in to reply

Top Comments

  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 6 years ago +11
    A high percentage of my builds have kits as sub assemblies. Most of my builds are purpose and goal driven and I see no reason to reinvent the wheel if there is a satisfactory component or circuit available…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago in reply to dougw +10
    From last millennium's kit producers very few survived. From the ones that started in the new millennium, some that focus on pre-soldered plug-in modules seem to survive. The ones that went for only pure…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago +10
    A very good discussion and I'll probably echo quite a few points already made, but before I get too far ahead of myself, I'd have to say that I absolutely love kits . As an introduction to electronics…
Parents
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago

    A very good discussion and I'll probably echo quite a few points already made, but before I get too far ahead of myself, I'd have to say that I absolutely love kits.

     

    As an introduction to electronics, kits were the easy way in. Back then, in Australia, many started with the *** Smith Funway to Electronics series - myself included. Sure, there were theory textbooks, but the kits were what made things "real" and taught us by throwing into the deep end. Practical skills such as soldering, fault-finding/troubleshooting and circuit modification are not things that can be taught in an engaging way without something to build. It allowed me to pick up these skills even before I managed to design PCBs (which, I'm still in the process of doing) and spared me the inconvenience of chasing part/catalogue numbers, ordering bits, meeting minimum order quantities and hoping I didn't make some tiny insignificant mistake that would mean it wouldn't all come together at the end.

     

    Now that I have advanced quite a bit from my "introductory" phase - guess what? I'm still fond of kits. To me, it's now turned into a nice weekend activity when I get the time and something reasonably priced turns up. Sure, most kits won't blow any decent mass manufactured product out of the water, nor will it be entirely too economical, and it comes with the caveat of "assembly skills required", but it's a good way to kill time and give that nice soldering iron a run. I find it relaxing to focus on a project like a kit - sometimes following instructions, making my own if there aren't any, just to brush up on my resistor colour code, through-hole soldering skills and perhaps challenge myself to a little surface mount along the way.

     

    In fact, since the loss of *** Smith, I've ended up sourcing random low-cost Chinese eBay kits just to build for fun - I've still got a few in a drawer that I haven't had the time to document, but these are the ones I've built so far:

    • https://goughlui.com/2016/09/28/project-reverse-eng-hex3653-av2b-stereo-fm-receiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/01/project-7-023mhz-pixie_4-1-qrp-cw-transceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/02/project-s66de-9018-based-am-radio-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/02/project-7-023mhz-pixie_v3-qrp-cw-tranceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/15/project-cd2003gpsc3610d-fm-receiver-wlcd-alarm-clock-74-108mhz/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/21/project-sainsmart-forty-9er-3w-7-023mhz-qrp-cw-transceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/27/project-yydzw-bh1417f-based-stereo-fm-transmitter-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/27/project-reverse-eng-repair-atmega328-based-transistor-tester-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/11/09/project-at89s52ds1302-based-led-clock-kit-ec1204b-equivalent/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-generic-chinese-electronic-led-windmill-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-unbranded-38-x-5mm-led-diy-lamp-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-eqkit-hbl-22-breathing-green-led-heart-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/10/project-unbranded-generic-ne555cd4017-smd-led-chaser-kit-yl-117/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/11/project-generic-electronic-57-led-hourglass-kit-tj-56-205/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/11/project-generic-18-red-led-flashing-love-heart-kit-tj-56-30/

    Of course, if you're setting up a kit, I'd hope it's of higher quality, with the correct components supplied and with proper instructions unlike some of these cheapies.

     

    From my perspective, kits definitely have their appeal - for those who just "want the end result" but the item isn't something worth having mass manufacture of - a kit is a good way to distribute it effectively. For those who just want to occupy their weekend with a project - it's got its appeal. For those who might be a beginner who wants to learn a little from their mistakes or to get them comfortable with modifying circuits on PCBs rather than breadboards - also a great tool. For making the project "real" - along with its non-idealities, construction difficulties, burnt resistors/transistors ... these are experiences that are worth having and having a kit can make it just that much easier especially for projects with complex BOMs.

     

    - Gough

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +10 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • More
    • Cancel
Comment
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago

    A very good discussion and I'll probably echo quite a few points already made, but before I get too far ahead of myself, I'd have to say that I absolutely love kits.

     

    As an introduction to electronics, kits were the easy way in. Back then, in Australia, many started with the *** Smith Funway to Electronics series - myself included. Sure, there were theory textbooks, but the kits were what made things "real" and taught us by throwing into the deep end. Practical skills such as soldering, fault-finding/troubleshooting and circuit modification are not things that can be taught in an engaging way without something to build. It allowed me to pick up these skills even before I managed to design PCBs (which, I'm still in the process of doing) and spared me the inconvenience of chasing part/catalogue numbers, ordering bits, meeting minimum order quantities and hoping I didn't make some tiny insignificant mistake that would mean it wouldn't all come together at the end.

     

    Now that I have advanced quite a bit from my "introductory" phase - guess what? I'm still fond of kits. To me, it's now turned into a nice weekend activity when I get the time and something reasonably priced turns up. Sure, most kits won't blow any decent mass manufactured product out of the water, nor will it be entirely too economical, and it comes with the caveat of "assembly skills required", but it's a good way to kill time and give that nice soldering iron a run. I find it relaxing to focus on a project like a kit - sometimes following instructions, making my own if there aren't any, just to brush up on my resistor colour code, through-hole soldering skills and perhaps challenge myself to a little surface mount along the way.

     

    In fact, since the loss of *** Smith, I've ended up sourcing random low-cost Chinese eBay kits just to build for fun - I've still got a few in a drawer that I haven't had the time to document, but these are the ones I've built so far:

    • https://goughlui.com/2016/09/28/project-reverse-eng-hex3653-av2b-stereo-fm-receiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/01/project-7-023mhz-pixie_4-1-qrp-cw-transceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/02/project-s66de-9018-based-am-radio-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/02/project-7-023mhz-pixie_v3-qrp-cw-tranceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/15/project-cd2003gpsc3610d-fm-receiver-wlcd-alarm-clock-74-108mhz/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/21/project-sainsmart-forty-9er-3w-7-023mhz-qrp-cw-transceiver-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/27/project-yydzw-bh1417f-based-stereo-fm-transmitter-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/10/27/project-reverse-eng-repair-atmega328-based-transistor-tester-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2016/11/09/project-at89s52ds1302-based-led-clock-kit-ec1204b-equivalent/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-generic-chinese-electronic-led-windmill-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-unbranded-38-x-5mm-led-diy-lamp-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/09/project-eqkit-hbl-22-breathing-green-led-heart-kit/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/10/project-unbranded-generic-ne555cd4017-smd-led-chaser-kit-yl-117/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/11/project-generic-electronic-57-led-hourglass-kit-tj-56-205/
    • https://goughlui.com/2018/05/11/project-generic-18-red-led-flashing-love-heart-kit-tj-56-30/

    Of course, if you're setting up a kit, I'd hope it's of higher quality, with the correct components supplied and with proper instructions unlike some of these cheapies.

     

    From my perspective, kits definitely have their appeal - for those who just "want the end result" but the item isn't something worth having mass manufacture of - a kit is a good way to distribute it effectively. For those who just want to occupy their weekend with a project - it's got its appeal. For those who might be a beginner who wants to learn a little from their mistakes or to get them comfortable with modifying circuits on PCBs rather than breadboards - also a great tool. For making the project "real" - along with its non-idealities, construction difficulties, burnt resistors/transistors ... these are experiences that are worth having and having a kit can make it just that much easier especially for projects with complex BOMs.

     

    - Gough

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +10 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • More
    • Cancel
Children
No Data
element14 Community

element14 is the first online community specifically for engineers. Connect with your peers and get expert answers to your questions.

  • Members
  • Learn
  • Technologies
  • Challenges & Projects
  • Products
  • Store
  • About Us
  • Feedback & Support
  • FAQs
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Legal and Copyright Notices
  • Sitemap
  • Cookies

An Avnet Company © 2025 Premier Farnell Limited. All Rights Reserved.

Premier Farnell Ltd, registered in England and Wales (no 00876412), registered office: Farnell House, Forge Lane, Leeds LS12 2NE.

ICP 备案号 10220084.

Follow element14

  • X
  • Facebook
  • linkedin
  • YouTube