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Toy car trouble

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Former Member over 13 years ago
Hi guys. I am trying to make a car that drives on its own and avoids dark areas. As of right now, all I am trying to do is make it so that my car can be controlled by the Arduino. I am having trouble doing this with a transistor. Let me walk you through the picture, it is hard to follow otherwise. (Heres a link to the picture, I could not get it to upload to this post.   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-2Lmc2NAMGC351_IcKcm4nRqQ-cmjmCi68UnDPqj6K4/edit

Ok, first off, the red cord running from the 9V battery gives the entire rail running parallel to the red line power. From there, a small green wire connects power to the left side of the transistor. The middle prong of the transistor runs to the arduino pin 13 (though from the bad camera angle it looks like it runs to ground). A cord connects the right side of the transistor to underneath the car and to all the motors (which can be seen in the second picture below the first one) and then resurfaces on the left side where it connects to the ground rail. The ground rail runs to the ground of the battery and a 1k resistor connects the ground rail to the ground of the arduino. (I think this might be where I am going wrong)

Then, the arduino is running this code

void setup() {               

  // initialize the digital pin as an output.

  // Pin 13 has an LED connected on most Arduino boards:

  pinMode(13, OUTPUT);    

}

 

void loop() {

  digitalWrite(13, HIGH);  

  delay(1000);         

  digitalWrite(13, LOW);  

  delay(1000);            

}

 

So in theroy, the arduino should turn the motors on for 1 second and then off for 1 second continually. But I am getting nothing. If I connect the middle prong of the transistor straight to the power rail, the motors turn on. So I figured maybe the arduino wasnt giving it power, but I hooked up my multimeter inbetween pin13 and the middle prong of the transistor and it does give off 5 volts. I thought maybe 5 volts was not enough, so I hooked up 3 1.5v batteries to test it, and with only 4.5v provided from the batteries, it was enough to make it work.

 

I have no idea what else to test. If you guys have any ideas, please let me know!

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver +1
    Finally! I managed to get it to work. I switched transistors out (which I had already done one before) and it worked. I think the reason it did not work last time is because I had the wires hooked up backwards…
  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 13 years ago

    Maybe this oomlout tutorial for running motors will help? They have some troubleshooting advice too.

    http://www.oomlout.com/oom.php/products/ardx/circ-03

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  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago

    I could be wrong, but it looks like your 1K goes to Analog Ref rather than a GND pin from this angle?

    non the less, you should Hard GND the pin, and use the 1K to feed the Base of the transistor instead.

    in fact doing it that way, you should be able to turn your motor on through that 1K (now on the Base) when you take it to the + rail.

    you absolutely MUST have a resistor on the transistors Base, else you have direct paths to the rail that can pop the tranny or Worse, ruin your arduino port.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago

    When I connect the base of the transistor to a power supply with just a regular wire, the motors turn. But when I connect the base of the transistor to a power supply with a resistor above 10 Ohms, the motors do nothing. Now, when I try to power an LED by connecting the base of the transistor to a power supply with a resistor, it does power the LED. Even if I use very high Ohm resistors. Am I correct in thinking that the motors can not get enough Amperage to run because of the resistors?

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  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    where is your motor intercept with relation to the transistors emitter or collector, and what sex is your transistor?

    you may have it set up as an emitter follower, if it`s NPN the motor intercept should be between Collector and the + rail, a PNP would be the reverse (but a Low pin would be ON then).

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    I am using an NPN and I tried the motor between the collector and the power rail and the other way around. Neither worked image

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  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    it sounds like your transistor`s defective, and that the only way you get power from a direct feed is exploiting the fact a tranny is just 2 diodes (in effect).

    with your emitter directly down to deck, you should be able to fire up the motor from the base to rail+ with wet fingers even, so the fact you`re getting nothing above 10 Ohms reads like you need a new transistor.

     

    I have to ask (non related) how do you plan on employing a reverse direction for the motor? or do you have something entirely different in mind?

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  • dirtdiver
    dirtdiver over 13 years ago

    I had the same problem.

    Another way  to have a motor running from the arduino is with the L293D  - its easy to use , its cheap and it works!

    + you can reverse the motor( it has an H-bridge inside it)

    and with one L29 you can control two motors

    I can give you a simple code and a schematic if you want me to

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    I put a brand new one in and still had the same problem. My friend suggested using MOSFETs. Do you think that would help? As for reversing the motors, I will just run wire on the to the motors on the right side, set up another transistor to them and have just those motors go backwards. Thus the car will go backwards and turn right.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    I appreciate the suggestion for the L293D, but more than making a car, I am just trying to get the parts to work so I can get used to working with them. Though I will deffinitely look into that for future projects!

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  • dirtdiver
    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    its helpful couse you control the speed, rotation direction, and on-off state of the motor with 3 digital pins.And you can use the arduino's 5v supply to run the motors

    as for the reversing you can use a DPDT relay for automatic wire-switching system

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