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Arduino and SN754410 motor driver chip

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Former Member over 12 years ago

I am using a 12v/8amp power source to supply three servos, two steppers, three dc motors, and twenty LEDs.  A DC to DC converter will provide step down, 6v source for the servos, but the DC motors are a problem. I have tried an SN754410NESN754410NE, connecting it as described in http://www.uduino.com/tutorials/11, but the chip overheats immediately.  Assuming the current was beyond specs, I used an LM317 in current limiting mode, bringing it down to about one amp with the same results - very hot, very fast. Power supply continues to be an ongoing puzzle. Any advise would be appreciated.  

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  • billabott
    billabott over 12 years ago +1
    Well, there is a wiring error in the circuit graphics as commented on by EvalityRules 7/27/2012 6:20:02 PM at the bottom of the page. I also noticed a mislabelling of the final connection to the 9V motor…
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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to mcb1 +1
    Mark, What a dummy! The SN..... components are next to one another in my parts container. I was trying to use a shift register as a motor driver, a case of mistaken identity. When in doubt, it is best…
  • billabott
    billabott over 12 years ago

    Well, there is a wiring error in the circuit graphics as commented on by EvalityRules 7/27/2012 6:20:02 PM  at the bottom of the page.

     

    I also noticed a mislabelling of the final connection to the 9V motor power supply.  It refers to pin 9 when it should be pin 8 of the bridge IC.  The 8 amp supply you are using can produce about 2 or even 3 times the current of a 9V cell.  That is a real hazzard if there is a short or wrong connection.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 12 years ago in reply to billabott

    I sometimes wonder how those (physical) stripboard diagrams can possibly be more helpful that a conventional (logical diag) schematic, since there is more room for error on the physical diags. Still, they seem popular on the web so what do I know...

     

    By the way, unless your motors are fairly low power, you may need external schottky diodes as in the datasheet (you should be fine for a small model motor with low inductance, since it appears that the i.c. has internal diodes too).

    For initial testing, often it may be better to use a small-sized (PP3) 9V battery if you have one handy rather than your DC supply

    (then, if there is a fault, you will be current limited because of the battery internal resistance, to protect your circuit slightly while you prototype. It's not a very refined approach, but is slightly better than no protection.

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Thanks for the advise. This chip is puzzling; no matter how many times I

    rewire the thing, it overheats, even with a 9v battery, and after changing

    the chip. Surely this is something obvious.  I will try a neater method for

    a photo.

     

    Keith

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Keith

    I'm not sure it applies in this case, but because the drawings are poor some others may be mistaken.

     

    The Driver IC can either have a small dot by Pin1, or it has a u shaped identification. (one site described it as '..a bite taken out ..')

    In these drawings Pin1 is top left.

     

    For anyone unsure here is a reasonable good reference to finding Pin 1  www.nteinc.com/faqs/IC_Pin1_Chart.pdf

     

    These IC's are only good for 1Amp and thats under ideal conditions, however they do incude back emf diodes.

    I have used E14's Mosfet drivers ( IR4427PBF) but you need to add diodes.

     

    Mark

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Mark,

         What a dummy! The SN..... components are next to one another in my

    parts container. I was trying to use a shift register as a motor driver, a

    case of mistaken identity. When in doubt, it is best to keep looking for

    the most idiotic error!  Thanks for the help.

     

    Keith

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Not exactly what I had in mind, but a cure anyway.

     

    You can pwm one input on these as well to have control.

    I have found that because one motor spins backwards, there is always some slight difference.

    Using pwm, you can correct for the difference, which is a bonus.

     

    In your software, just be aware that going from forward to reverse, will impart a huge amount of energy onto a motor, unless you allow some time for it to slow down.

    Secondly ensure you have a 0.1uF capacitor across the motor connections (preferably right at the motor) to stop the radiated electrical spikes.

     

    Good luck and have fun.

    Mark

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