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Powering 2 12V Electromagnets

gub11
gub11 over 9 years ago

I am still trying to understand ohms law, which looked simple at first, and it probably is simple, but when i look at charts that have the laws for resistance voltage wattage and current, I get confused, because often times you are given 2 variables, how do you get all four?  My main question is what voltage would I need to power 2 12v electromagnet, would i need a 12v psu or 24v, or something in between?

Thanks

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 9 years ago in reply to gub11 +2
    You should never have an automatic lock on your bedroom door (especially if under 90 years old) for the following reasons: 1) It puts off visitors 2) In case of fire you will not be rescued 3) Everyone…
  • gadget.iom
    gadget.iom over 9 years ago in reply to jack.chaney56 +1
    Jack Chaney wrote: 12v supply for your power, and link the magnets in parallel. I would agree
  • jack.chaney56
    jack.chaney56 over 9 years ago in reply to michaelkellett +1
    Gabriel's question and the solutions that I have seen are typical of a great discussion, because the search for the solution is uncovering more requirements. This is not just good engineering, but great…
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    0 supper_slash over 9 years ago

    Ok, first, here is an idea if you just wish for something ready-made for this.

    http://goo.gl/BUOHls

     

     

    Here is an Arduino option also. Unlock Your Front Door Without Keys Using This DIY Keyfob Entry System « Hacks, Mods & Circuitry

    To answer your question for the  solenoid, it is a push solenoid, that is when you energized it is designed to extend out.

    Then when you power it down, it will retract. I myself would not like it to be set up so you would need it to have its primary position as "out".

    In other words, I would not have it powered 90% of the time than powered down for a minute, then powered up.

    Personally, I would have it set up mechanically so it would be off most of the time, then when I need to access "the door" it will power on, let me in, then back off again.

     

    On a larger scale, what are you using to drive this set up as far as a Microcontroller, or, and Arduino board, or do you have something already in place in mind?

     

    In my thinking, If I wanted to automate a front door, with a latch, and build everything myself. This is what I would do.

     

     

    Here is whatI would do.

     

    https://sway.com/EM98djLYBMpg0167

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    0 supper_slash over 9 years ago

    Ok, first, here is an idea if you just wish for something ready-made for this.

    http://goo.gl/BUOHls

     

     

    Here is an Arduino option also. Unlock Your Front Door Without Keys Using This DIY Keyfob Entry System « Hacks, Mods & Circuitry

    To answer your question for the  solenoid, it is a push solenoid, that is when you energized it is designed to extend out.

    Then when you power it down, it will retract. I myself would not like it to be set up so you would need it to have its primary position as "out".

    In other words, I would not have it powered 90% of the time than powered down for a minute, then powered up.

    Personally, I would have it set up mechanically so it would be off most of the time, then when I need to access "the door" it will power on, let me in, then back off again.

     

    On a larger scale, what are you using to drive this set up as far as a Microcontroller, or, and Arduino board, or do you have something already in place in mind?

     

    In my thinking, If I wanted to automate a front door, with a latch, and build everything myself. This is what I would do.

     

     

    Here is whatI would do.

     

    https://sway.com/EM98djLYBMpg0167

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    0 gub11 over 9 years ago in reply to supper_slash

    the lock is for my bedroom door, it is mostly for when people knock, instead of getting up and opening it, i can just unlock it from my desk,  I will use some sort of microcontroller, probably the arduino pro mini, then send a signal via an rf transmitter and receiver to a mosfet to let power go through, though I am very new to mosfets, transistors, etc. so i am not sure what the best way to switch on and of the power would be

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    0 michaelkellett over 9 years ago in reply to gub11

    You should never have an automatic lock on your bedroom door (especially if under 90 years old) for the following reasons:

     

    1) It puts off visitors

    2) In case of fire you will not be rescued

    3) Everyone will think you are up to something they should snoop on

     

    MK

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    0 gub11 over 9 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    I totally agree. Im not doing it cuz I'm a teenager who wants to keep his parents out of his room, but I am a teenager.

    I'm doing it because

    1) I've never worked with magnets, so it seems like a good way to learn

    2) when I'm playing a video game or I'm talking to a friend, it's annoying when people enter without knocking, so it will only be locked when I'm sitting at my desk, obviously unlocked when I go to bed.

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    0 jack.chaney56 over 9 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Gabriel's question and the solutions that I have seen are typical of a great discussion, because the search for the solution is uncovering more requirements.  This is not just good engineering, but great engineering.

     

    Something to recognize with the solenoid solution, is the noise factor. Most solenoids in the configuration described (normal withdrawn) when in an activated state, are constantly fighting with the tension spring. Fluctuations in power, however minimal, cause the lug (the metal bar) to vibrate creating a buzzing. The limitation of this behavior is reduced as the price of the solenoid goes up.  The described environment (friends talking) leads me to believe that a constant buzz in the background is not desired, and the budget for the solution does not seem to be realistic for elimination of the distraction. I actually like Michael's statement, suggesting, examining the problem again to see if there is an alternative solution to a lock on the door.

     

    Here's wishing you luck with your quest,

    Jack

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