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Arduino relays for lighting

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Former Member over 11 years ago

All,

 

I'm building a new house, and I decided that I want microcontrollers to control my lighting. Now I have dimmers covered, with a 0-+10V system, but surprisingly I'm struggling a bit with the lights that should just be on or off. I figured it should be doable with a relatively cheap array of relays connected to an Arduino. I'm not going to get my hands dirty, my electrician is (which is, I should say, a good idea). He insists on the following standard for the relays:

  • CE certification.
  • at least 240 VAC
  • at least 10A
  • DIN Rail mountable

 

I'm guessing I could satisfy the last requirement with a PCB in something like this: http://cpc.farnell.com/pulse/acc-case-m/flightcase-universal-medium/dp/DP31699

I have not yet found a product, that matches all of the top three though: I found something in various shops that has 250 VAC @ 10A, but no visible CE mark, and I found one on hobbyking http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__26921__Arduino_6_Channel_Relay_Module.html that had a CE mark, but could only do 240VAC @ 7A. I'd like something like that, with 6-8 channels would be nice.

 

It would be nice if the electrician could order all the products from Farnell, since they have a Norwegian office and I have used them for some other projects. Any pointers?

 

Message was edited by: Matt Collinge. Updated CPC link.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 9 years ago +2
    Your electrician is right in terms of good practice and it may well be that local laws require the parts to comply with his suggestions. I expect you would like your house to last at least 25 years before…
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to michaelkellett +2 suggested
    Michael Kellett wrote: ...Arduino isn't the right kind of thing for this - I think you should go for industrial standard parts and practice which would suggest 24V DC relay coils... There are these Arduino…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to mcb1 +2
    There are even more possibilities, like activation without taking the device out the package : ) (I've no idea if Peter's device does that, but technically it is feasible). NXP has a part which can be…
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  • Robert Peter Oakes
    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 9 years ago

    So if you want really safe and secure mains control, a consideration might new the new NFC programmable Timer Relay from Schneider Electric RENF22R2MMW | Multi Function NFC Time Delay Relay, Screw, 0.1 s → 100 h, 2CO, 2 Contacts, DPCO, 12 → 240 V ac/dc | Schne…

    I could not find it on Newark site but I have already reviewed a prototype of this device and it is pretty cool. I now have 2 production units to play with

     

    Based on the specifications the release voltage for its control input is <2.4V so should be controllable from Arduino. I will test this out in the next few days

     

    anyway, it is a brand new unit on the market and certainly is for industrial use.

     

    The other think I will mention is about the Industrial Shields units. They are CE certified and are for industrial use. There not for EVERY industrial application though for many of the reasons mentioned above.

     

    Would you use them in a smelting application or other more extreme environment. No, not without additional protection in the form of cabinets etc.

    I would entertain them though in a more normal environment like process control in a people populated factory ... production line control for instance, certainly for home automation where the environment is well controlled, and certainly for office automation.

     

    If you want to have something in the more extreme industrial / temperature range installs then this is probably not for you. Otherwise this is a great set of nuits that are very open for your choice of software. I have examples running ModBus etc with no issues whatsoever. Not in an industrial setting but running well nevertheless.

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 9 years ago

    So if you want really safe and secure mains control, a consideration might new the new NFC programmable Timer Relay from Schneider Electric RENF22R2MMW | Multi Function NFC Time Delay Relay, Screw, 0.1 s → 100 h, 2CO, 2 Contacts, DPCO, 12 → 240 V ac/dc | Schne…

    I could not find it on Newark site but I have already reviewed a prototype of this device and it is pretty cool. I now have 2 production units to play with

     

    Based on the specifications the release voltage for its control input is <2.4V so should be controllable from Arduino. I will test this out in the next few days

     

    anyway, it is a brand new unit on the market and certainly is for industrial use.

     

    The other think I will mention is about the Industrial Shields units. They are CE certified and are for industrial use. There not for EVERY industrial application though for many of the reasons mentioned above.

     

    Would you use them in a smelting application or other more extreme environment. No, not without additional protection in the form of cabinets etc.

    I would entertain them though in a more normal environment like process control in a people populated factory ... production line control for instance, certainly for home automation where the environment is well controlled, and certainly for office automation.

     

    If you want to have something in the more extreme industrial / temperature range installs then this is probably not for you. Otherwise this is a great set of nuits that are very open for your choice of software. I have examples running ModBus etc with no issues whatsoever. Not in an industrial setting but running well nevertheless.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    NFC is _so good_ for configurations. I'm surprised it isn't used as much as it should be, everywhere!!

    TI has a nice part that is in a hand-solder-friendly package, and easy to use, the RF430CL330H.

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    0 mcb1 over 9 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    Never entered my mind to use NFC for touchless activation.

     

    That gives me an idea for a demo device to show to some people being introduced to Arduino.

     

    Cheers

    Mark

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    0 shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to mcb1

    There are even more possibilities, like activation without taking the device out the package : )

    (I've no idea if Peter's device does that, but technically it is feasible).

    NXP has a part which can be NFC-configured without main device power being switched on.

    It is a fantastic part but unfortunately Farnell doesn't stock it last time I checked.

    The TI part mentioned above doesn't support that particular bit of functionality, but has the advantage of being easier to obtain. I've tried both, they are both awesome parts.

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