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74HC595 and Relay board question

funinalaska
funinalaska over 11 years ago

Ok, I have ordered this relay board:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181293241640?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I currently have a circuit and program running on my arduino which uses a 595 shift register to control 8 LEDs

I would like to replace the LEDs with this relay board.

Is there anything else I will need to put between the 595 and the relay board control pins or should this be plug and play?

 

The use for this is to control 5V and 12V lighting that is dispersed throughout my house.

 

I have 5 channels currently of lighting I am going to use the relays as follows:

Relay 1 will be power supply main power (using an ATX power supply so this will only control the trigger wire of that power supply the Arduino and relay board will be powered by the standby power.

 

then 5 chanels of lighting 2 of which are 5V being used to power WS2812 lights and the control board for them and the other 3 are for "dumb" LED light strips that are simply on/off

 

the last 2 relays I am hooking up as room for expansion

 

So is there anything I need between 595 and the relay board? it already has optoisolators. It says 15-20ma trigger current at 5v

 

Should I run the vcc of the relay board from the arduino or directly off the 5v standby rail of the power supply?

 

If I want to put indicator LEDs on the surface of what I am using as the housing for the power supply should I put them on the signal side or on the relay switched side?

 

Anyway, thanks in advance for any and all assistance.

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago

    should be plug and play, I have one of these boards already and it is easy to integrate to

     

    the only thing you may have to do is invert your signal depending on weather your outputting a 0 for LED ON or a 1.

     

    you are still driving LEDs, the only difference is these ones are part of an optical isolator and a logical 1 should turn on the LED/Relay.

     

    that should be the only change

     

    regards

     

    Peter

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    0 funinalaska over 11 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    The relays are active HIGH

    so it should be simple to just connect to COM and NO on the relays and signal to signal.

    I was planning to power the relay board from the same 5V source I am going to use for the arduino and not through the arduino.

    The Power Supply gives me a 2A 5V standby rail without switching on the main supply, that should be more than sufficient to run the Arduino, the 595 and the relay board and not have to strain the regulator of the Arduino.

    Well, it will be this summer before I get everything together so we will see then.

    And I think I also like the idea of using the load side of the relay for the signal LEDs either that or put in dual 595s and sync them and have one for the relays and one for the signal LEDs.

    I haven't decided yet.

    But thank you for confirmation on my concerns about the relay board being plug and play. makes life much easier.

    I got confused because I see some people putting transistors and other things between their arduino and relays and it just seemed redundant and unnecessary

    I think those are using relays that have a 12V trigger signal.

    I dunno

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago in reply to funinalaska

    in the case of seeing people putting in transistors, this is because they do not have it built into the relay board

     

    in your case all this is included making it an easy job to interface.

     

    Are you currently turning on the LEDs with a common ground and pushing 5V into them via a resistor or are they connected with a common 5V and you pulling the other side to 0v

     

    if the first then you may need an inverter after the chip, if the latter then it may not be an issue as you will need to power them the way it initializes anyway.

     

     

    put another way, are you clearing the output of the 595 to zero or one ?

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago in reply to funinalaska

    in the case of seeing people putting in transistors, this is because they do not have it built into the relay board

     

    in your case all this is included making it an easy job to interface.

     

    Are you currently turning on the LEDs with a common ground and pushing 5V into them via a resistor or are they connected with a common 5V and you pulling the other side to 0v

     

    if the first then you may need an inverter after the chip, if the latter then it may not be an issue as you will need to power them the way it initializes anyway.

     

     

    put another way, are you clearing the output of the 595 to zero or one ?

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    0 funinalaska over 11 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    The LEDs are connected via a resistor from each pin of the 595 then to a common ground

    Well, ok, I have the resistor between the LED and ground, but same idea.

    they come either all or some portion of them come on when I connect power to the arduino (currently the whole thing is being powered from the arduino power)

    then after a brief time (less than 1 second) they all turn off as the sketch tells them they should be LOW

    I know there is some function of pins 10 and 13 on the 595 I don't understand, might this help?

    currently I am only using the data, latch and clock connections on the 595

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    0 funinalaska over 11 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    The LEDs are connected via a resistor from each pin of the 595 then to a common ground

    Well, ok, I have the resistor between the LED and ground, but same idea.

    they come either all or some portion of them come on when I connect power to the arduino (currently the whole thing is being powered from the arduino power)

    then after a brief time (less than 1 second) they all turn off as the sketch tells them they should be LOW

    I know there is some function of pins 10 and 13 on the 595 I don't understand, might this help?

    currently I am only using the data, latch and clock connections on the 595

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