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Materials needed to make interactive LED table.

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Former Member over 11 years ago

Hello after viewing some videos on youtube, I wanted to make a table that uses ir sensors to to vary the LED output i.e. the closer you get the brighter the LED gets. I was curious as to what materials i would need. i planned on driving this with one or two arduinos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLfF4b49MLs this is one of the videos that gave me the idea.

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    Sounds like fun! are you looking to detect the proximity vertically, horizontally, or both?  I.E. do you want to detect somebody walking up to the table, or how close, say, their hand is to the table top?

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    @jbix detect their proximity vertically. i had in mind ding something like a analog read of the ir reciever and do an analog write of that value to the color led, thats a simple version of what. i think for the programming side im pretty secure im an undergrad software major, my main questions is about the electrical side of things. for instance what kind of resistors should i be using is im wiring the leds in parrell, and the driver chips needed

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    More details about the design?  How many Emitters/detectors are you planning on using?  Have you selected a microcontroller yet?  Have you selected your proximity sensors?  You mention wiring the LED's, so I'm guessing you're using separate IR Emitters/Detectors?

     

    Regarding resistor selection, when you wire devices in parallel, they all receive the same source voltage, and their currents are added up.  You'll need to know the operating current (forward current) of your LED's to select your resistor(s).  You'll also need to know your source voltage, and the forward voltage of the LED's you will be using.  To select the current-limiting resistor for the LED, take your source voltage, subtract the LED forward voltage from it. divide that value by the forward current of the LED (note, if the current is 30mA, you divide by .03, not 30).

     

    For example, if your source voltage is 5V, your LED forward voltage is 1.2V and the forward current is 30mA:

    5V - 1.2V = 3.8V

    3.8V / 30mA = 126.667 Ohms (Select the nearest higher value available)

     

    There are plenty of calculators available to do the math for you as well.

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    i was planning on building a 8ft by 2ft table to house the unit, i want to use an arduino uno for the microcontroller. i want to fill the table with an LED display. grouping the LEDs in 4s putting emitters around those groups with a single detector in the center of the group. and repeat this pattern until the table is filled with this array. the IR emitter/detector will be used as proximity sensors in this case. thanks for that example it helps alot

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Have you done any math on how many sets of LED's you'll be using?  Each cluster will be pretty small depending on the spacing, you could be looking at hundreds of clusters.

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Note that with the volume of LEDs in parallel and with most of the power / voltage being dissipated in the resistors which equates to 114mW per resistor, that will be allot of wasted power. You may want to consider grouping LEDs in series from a higher supply or providing a 1.5 or 2V supply for the LEDS and reduce to power

     

    The table may get quite warm / hot (4 LEDS per 2" = 192 * 48 = 9,216 LEDs  = 9216*114mW = 1KW of dissipation from resistors and that's only 4 * 30mA led in a 2" square

     

    btw, this adds up to over 250Amps if all LEDs are on at the same time (That's 6Amps on 240V supply or 11 on 110V)

     

    More if you use RGB LEDs with 20mA per LED * 3 ie 500Amps and 2KW dissipated in the resistors, (that's 11Amps on 240V or 22 on 110V supply)

     

    Something to contemplate as you build bigger and bigger arrays

     

    May want to ensure not all the LEDS are ever on at the same time

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I Haven't done the math just yet. I really just have a concept down. I wanted getan idea of what kind of things I'd need to get. As far as spacing goes I was going to use peg board (hard cork with holes in it) to place the leds and what not since they'd fit snugly.  With the peg board I'll be able to evenly space the leds in such a way that the clusters could be larger than just a group of four

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    I Haven't done the math just yet. I really just have a concept down. I wanted getan idea of what kind of things I'd need to get. As far as spacing goes I was going to use peg board (hard cork with holes in it) to place the leds and what not since they'd fit snugly.  With the peg board I'll be able to evenly space the leds in such a way that the clusters could be larger than just a group of four

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