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Experience with a humidity sensor?

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Former Member over 10 years ago

I'm working on an Arduino project logging humidity, temperature and air pressure in a sewer for 30 days at a time. The environment is very hostile, 99 - 100% humidity and full of sulphuric acid.  (The acid comes from hydrogen sulphide combining with the humidity).  The prototype works fine and I'm about to make the final version of the hardware for deployment into the sewer.

 

I'm using a HYT 221 humidity sensor and while it is supposed to be chemical resistant I have the funny feeling it is not going to last the desired month in the sewer.  I suspect that the housing I'm going to use (Jiffy box) will allow moisture in, even with an o-ring around the sensor.  I also need to have the air pressure sensor exposed and that has no filter or protection.

 

Has anyone else had any experience exposing sensors to hostile environments and not having them die?

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago

    I also need to have the air pressure sensor exposed and that has no filter or protection.

    You could house the air pressure sensor inside a sealed pressurised container with a 'bladder'.

    Any changes in the air density will exert force onto the bladder and raise the pressure inside which the sensor can measure.

    It should be relatively easy to calibrate, and keeps it from the toxic environment.

     

    For the electronics, I suggest housing them inside a rubber or latex balloon (used for RC What Kind of Balloons Do You Use to Protect RC Electronics?) or similar then inside a sealed container, with only the connections external.

    If possible apply positive pressure into the sealed container, avoid using double insulated wire at the external junction, as the air will leak down the outer sheath.

     

     

    I'm afraid your humidity sensor needs to be exposed, so pick something designed for chemical environments, or throw it away after 30 days.

     

     

    Let us know what you designed and how it copes.

     

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago

    I also need to have the air pressure sensor exposed and that has no filter or protection.

    You could house the air pressure sensor inside a sealed pressurised container with a 'bladder'.

    Any changes in the air density will exert force onto the bladder and raise the pressure inside which the sensor can measure.

    It should be relatively easy to calibrate, and keeps it from the toxic environment.

     

    For the electronics, I suggest housing them inside a rubber or latex balloon (used for RC What Kind of Balloons Do You Use to Protect RC Electronics?) or similar then inside a sealed container, with only the connections external.

    If possible apply positive pressure into the sealed container, avoid using double insulated wire at the external junction, as the air will leak down the outer sheath.

     

     

    I'm afraid your humidity sensor needs to be exposed, so pick something designed for chemical environments, or throw it away after 30 days.

     

     

    Let us know what you designed and how it copes.

     

    Mark

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Mark,

     

    I was considering placing the board & batteries in zip-lock sandwich bags, but had never thought of balloons.  Interesting idea which I'll have to explore; which material survives the environment - plastic or rubber?  I know cable ties "corrode" in the environment, becoming brittle and eventually breaking.

     

    Positive pressure would be a good idea, but pressurizing the box for a month adds many complications.  The unit will be inserted down a man hole and placed on the sewer wall.  Because of the threat of vandalism/ theft/ the public, the unit can't have any components above the man hole.  Ideally I'd have a unit on the surface receiving an RF signal from the sensors and a solar panel powering it.

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Andrew

    which material survives the environment

    I'm picking the latex.

     

    The zip lock bags are fine but I have found they can sometimes have issues with the zip part.

    You also need to get the wires out, which means the seal is difficult, hence the rubber balloon.

     

    Silicon and hot glue are fine as long as they remain bonded to the wire/box.

    If there is any movement the seal is broken, so it's important to consider that when using it.

     

    You can purchase electrical boxes that are IP67 rated and are cheap enough.

    They should be able to be pressurised if you pick the right one.

    Some are chemical resistant as well.

     

    Positive pressure is just a valve on the side, but ensuring the container is sealed is key.

    Electrical compression glands are available, and are worth looking at.

     

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