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DS1804 (100k) produces a lot of noise

Ricodora
Ricodora over 1 year ago

Hello people!
The volume goes up and down correctly. The lower the volume, the more noise it produces.

DS1804 has 100 positions:

In positions [80,99] it does not produce noise (I do not hear it)
[70-80) -> produces a little noise
[60-70) -> more noise
[50-60) -> even more noise
...
[10-20) -> a lot of distortion

The component is original purchased from "Mouser Electronic".

Component Detail anda Data Sheet

I use a constant 5v power supply, I don't use USB-C

I have 2 units of DS1804, they both do the same thing.

<code>

#include <DS1804.h>

#define increment 14
#define select 33
#define up_down 27

// DS1804( byte CSpin, byte INCpin, byte UDpin, unsigned long maxResistance )
DS1804 digipot = DS1804( select, increment, up_down, DS1804_HUNDRED );

void setup() {
Serial.begin(9600);
digipot.setToZero();
}

void loop() {
if ( Serial.available() > 0 ) {
int position = Serial.parseInt();
if (position > 0) {
digipot.setWiperPosition(position);
}
}
}

</code>

image

Any ideas? Thank you

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago in reply to Ricodora +4
    The XC9503 is expensive because it has an analogue signal range of +/- 8V while operating froma single rail 5V supply. That's why it works. You can use the DS1804 but you will need input capacitors…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago +2
    There are problems with your circuit. The audio signal going in will usually swing both positive and negative with respect to GND. But the data sheet for the 1804 says: H - High-Terminal Potentiometer…
  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago +1
    Is it white noise or a tone?
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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago

    If it's electronic noise, it's not surprising, it is very likely to happen, becuase the ESP32 uses varying amounts of current, and it causes a varying voltage on lengths of the ground connection, which happens to be also connected to your audio inputs and outputs, on a breadboard most likely. The varying voltage becomes part of the signal. You might not be able to completely eliminate it on a breadboard, or even on a PCB with this circuit.

    Some (non-exhaustive list) tips:

    (1) connect the audio input ground, and the audio output ground, to the same place, directly close to pin 4 of the DS1804, rather than to the ground rail. (The DS1804 still needs a single wire from pin 4 down to the ground rail of course, but the audio in and audio out ground connections should be wired at the pin 4 location closely).

    (2) use supply decoupling (a capacitor) as close as possible to the ESP32 VIN and GND pins. To do that, get a capacitor (ballpark 100uF) and place it on pins 15 and 14 of the ESP32.

    (3) also add supply decoupling as close as possible to the DS1804 VCC and GND pins (pins 8 and 4). This time, use a 10uF capacitor, and straddle it diagonally across the chip, rather than using jumper wires.

    (4) Don't connect the DS1804 VCC pin to the power rail directly. Instead, use a 10 ohm resistor.

    (5) Make sure your audio in and out wiring is either shielded, or twisted wires.

    (6) If you're powering things from USB, try to test with a different 5V supply and disconnect the USB connection, in case it makes a difference

    All the above may help reduce the noise, but it won't get rid of it all, especially on a breadboard.

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    0 shabaz over 1 year ago

    If it's electronic noise, it's not surprising, it is very likely to happen, becuase the ESP32 uses varying amounts of current, and it causes a varying voltage on lengths of the ground connection, which happens to be also connected to your audio inputs and outputs, on a breadboard most likely. The varying voltage becomes part of the signal. You might not be able to completely eliminate it on a breadboard, or even on a PCB with this circuit.

    Some (non-exhaustive list) tips:

    (1) connect the audio input ground, and the audio output ground, to the same place, directly close to pin 4 of the DS1804, rather than to the ground rail. (The DS1804 still needs a single wire from pin 4 down to the ground rail of course, but the audio in and audio out ground connections should be wired at the pin 4 location closely).

    (2) use supply decoupling (a capacitor) as close as possible to the ESP32 VIN and GND pins. To do that, get a capacitor (ballpark 100uF) and place it on pins 15 and 14 of the ESP32.

    (3) also add supply decoupling as close as possible to the DS1804 VCC and GND pins (pins 8 and 4). This time, use a 10uF capacitor, and straddle it diagonally across the chip, rather than using jumper wires.

    (4) Don't connect the DS1804 VCC pin to the power rail directly. Instead, use a 10 ohm resistor.

    (5) Make sure your audio in and out wiring is either shielded, or twisted wires.

    (6) If you're powering things from USB, try to test with a different 5V supply and disconnect the USB connection, in case it makes a difference

    All the above may help reduce the noise, but it won't get rid of it all, especially on a breadboard.

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