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Is it possible to transport humans and things through air?

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dixonselvan over 7 years ago

I wonder how it would be if we can transport human beings or other things like luggage, goods and livestock through air. Something similar to teleport. Is it really possible to break atoms and combine them again at a different place? image

 

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  • skspurling
    skspurling over 7 years ago +7
    It's called an airplane.... ;-)
  • dougw
    dougw over 7 years ago +4
    It is a mind boggling exercise to even quantify the problem. There are 7 x 10 to the 27th power atoms in a human. One issue of many is you need a machine that can record the type of atom, its state and…
  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 7 years ago in reply to e14phil +4
    Interesting concepts One other thing that comes to mind is that we would need to figure out the differences between a living pile of atoms and a non-living one. For example, what makes a living creature…
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    DAB over 7 years ago

    Unfortunately, there are fatal flaws in the idea.

     

    While it might be possible one day to deconstruct every atom in  person and then reassemble them in correct order, it would be nearly impossible to capture all of the metadata within the body that makes you, you.

     

    You not only need the correct atoms, but you also need the precise number of photons around the atom to capture the exact state of each atom.

     

    The complexity of nearly every living thing is more than just its collection of atoms.  There are genetic constructs within those atoms that keep the object functioning.  Since we do not know how any of those things works, then reconstructing the exact state of the array of atoms become moot.

     

    The other issue is moral.  You essentially have to kill yourself to transport and recreate yourself somewhere else.  It is a suicide and resurrection conundrum.  Even if you can do it, should you?

     

    That added to the other issue of reliability of information and state transfer makes such a process extremely hazardous.

     

    As Douglas pointed out, that is a lot of data to transfer.  Even a one part per billion error rate would leave serious flaws in the copy.

     

    Think about all of the errors you get everyday in web searches.  Then extrapolate that into people transfers.  Are you really prepared to live with the consequences?

     

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    DAB over 7 years ago

    Unfortunately, there are fatal flaws in the idea.

     

    While it might be possible one day to deconstruct every atom in  person and then reassemble them in correct order, it would be nearly impossible to capture all of the metadata within the body that makes you, you.

     

    You not only need the correct atoms, but you also need the precise number of photons around the atom to capture the exact state of each atom.

     

    The complexity of nearly every living thing is more than just its collection of atoms.  There are genetic constructs within those atoms that keep the object functioning.  Since we do not know how any of those things works, then reconstructing the exact state of the array of atoms become moot.

     

    The other issue is moral.  You essentially have to kill yourself to transport and recreate yourself somewhere else.  It is a suicide and resurrection conundrum.  Even if you can do it, should you?

     

    That added to the other issue of reliability of information and state transfer makes such a process extremely hazardous.

     

    As Douglas pointed out, that is a lot of data to transfer.  Even a one part per billion error rate would leave serious flaws in the copy.

     

    Think about all of the errors you get everyday in web searches.  Then extrapolate that into people transfers.  Are you really prepared to live with the consequences?

     

    DAB

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    dougw over 7 years ago in reply to DAB

    Yes, I didn't get into the state of each atom, but it is quite conceivable that the structure and state of all the subatomic particles in every single atom could individually take more data to accurately describe than what is stored on all the google servers right now. Each quark could be like an entire universe - we essentially have no knowledge at this level.

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    DAB over 7 years ago in reply to dougw

    Don't get me started about those imaginary particles. image

     

    Even with my simple atomic model, the details are immense.  So if I am wrong and atoms are even more complex, well it just goes for bad to worse.

     

     

     

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    dixonselvan over 7 years ago in reply to DAB

    Thanks DAB for pinpointing about State of atoms and Morality in implementing the idea. Yes, even cloning humans is immoral and I agree with you that I won't opt for killing myself and then recreating me.

     

    Also, thank you for the data saving stuff and how you related it with the errors we receive while searching in Google. Nobody will like to live with errors.

     

    I am still wondering if not humans what about non-living stuff like luggage, goods. Can we try experimenting with them or do they also have limitations?

     

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    DAB over 7 years ago in reply to dixonselvan

    As I said earlier, even with my simple atomic model, there is a lot of issues with first capturing the true state of each atom and then reassembling that state somewhere else.

     

    We currently do not have the technology to do this.

     

    That said, as my research continues, we are learning more about how photons interact with atoms in physics, chemistry and biology to the point were there just might be a way to manipulate individual atoms with a fair degree of control.  At this point I am just defining some experiments where I can verify my atomic structure and the effect of photon transfer.

     

    In theory, we should be able to reconstruct an atomic structure atom by atom, so structural things might be built.  At this point I do see a potential for the original Star Trek replicator device, but there are many technical details yet to work out.

     

    I have just begun to dig into chemical and biological structures, but I can say that they are another level of complexity beyond just the physical atomic interactions.  I do however, see the same photon transfer effect in these areas as well, so once we get to the physical construction, chemical structures should also be possible.  Biology, in theory, should follow the same technology path.

     

    If you are interested in my Atomic Model, take a look at my latest book "Reverse Engineering The Universe" and you will see how simple I think atoms really are.

     

     

     

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