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Nice write-up at LinuxGizmos -- why no PCIe?

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johnbeetem over 11 years ago

There's a nice write-up of RIoTboard at LinuxGizmos.com, with good comparisons to the Wandboard.

 

An alert reader asked "why isn't PCI Express hooked up?"  That's a good question -- why isn't it?  That would be a nice product differentiator, and something I've been looking for at some point.

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  • mconners
    mconners over 11 years ago +1
    That is a nice write up, thanks for the link. Mike
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    johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to cstanton +1
    Christopher Stanton wrote: Hi John, I managed to get hold of a RIoTboard and you're right. PCIe isn't hooked up. It's listed as a feature in the datasheet of the processor, but mistakenly listed…
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    0 cstanton over 11 years ago

    Hi John,

     

    I managed to get hold of a RIoTboard and you're right. PCIe isn't hooked up.

     

    It's listed as a feature in the datasheet of the processor, but mistakenly listed as a feature of the RIoTboard. Potentially you could solder in some wires (good luck) and break it out yourself from the processor (I wouldn't recommend it).

     

    I'm told the documentation will be updated on Monday the 17th of February to reflect what is actually available on the board.

     

    I don't know why it wasn't, I can only assume it was because of cost or it was considered that the Android OS wouldn't suitably support it (a big assumption on my part). Connectors are typically expensive which is why you don't get a great deal of them on developer boards.

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    0 johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to cstanton

    Christopher Stanton wrote:

     

    Hi John,

     

    I managed to get hold of a RIoTboard and you're right. PCIe isn't hooked up.

     

    It's listed as a feature in the datasheet of the processor, but mistakenly listed as a feature of the RIoTboard. Potentially you could solder in some wires (good luck) and break it out yourself from the processor (I wouldn't recommend it).

     

    I'm told the documentation will be updated on Monday the 17th of February to reflect what is actually available on the board.

     

    I don't know why it wasn't, I can only assume it was because of cost or it was considered that the Android OS wouldn't suitably support it (a big assumption on my part). Connectors are typically expensive which is why you don't get a great deal of them on developer boards.

    The RIoTboard User Manual v1.0 lists PCIe as part of the processor summary, but from what I can tell the UM never suggests that PCIe is available to users.  The RioTboard schematics V1.0 schematics clearly show that PCIe is not hooked up (sheet 8).

     

    Having an optional PCIe connector is dirt cheap -- just don't populate it.  The problem is to decide which connector to use.  Personally, I think a SATA connector would be dandy, since then you can get a cheap, reliable cable to connect PCIe to something else.

     

    My personal interest in PCIe is that I have an FPGA design I did for a client.  I update the design every year or so to add capabilities.  Right now it has a PCI interface, which works fine.  However, I fear that a future design will require PCIe to talk to a future processor.  I don't need PCIe for the speed -- just for the connectivity.  So I keep a close watch on development boards with PCIe.  With luck, a cheap development board with PCIe will arrive at the same time as a cheap FPGA with PCIe.

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    0 johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to cstanton

    Christopher Stanton wrote:

     

    Hi John,

     

    I managed to get hold of a RIoTboard and you're right. PCIe isn't hooked up.

     

    It's listed as a feature in the datasheet of the processor, but mistakenly listed as a feature of the RIoTboard. Potentially you could solder in some wires (good luck) and break it out yourself from the processor (I wouldn't recommend it).

     

    I'm told the documentation will be updated on Monday the 17th of February to reflect what is actually available on the board.

     

    I don't know why it wasn't, I can only assume it was because of cost or it was considered that the Android OS wouldn't suitably support it (a big assumption on my part). Connectors are typically expensive which is why you don't get a great deal of them on developer boards.

    The RIoTboard User Manual v1.0 lists PCIe as part of the processor summary, but from what I can tell the UM never suggests that PCIe is available to users.  The RioTboard schematics V1.0 schematics clearly show that PCIe is not hooked up (sheet 8).

     

    Having an optional PCIe connector is dirt cheap -- just don't populate it.  The problem is to decide which connector to use.  Personally, I think a SATA connector would be dandy, since then you can get a cheap, reliable cable to connect PCIe to something else.

     

    My personal interest in PCIe is that I have an FPGA design I did for a client.  I update the design every year or so to add capabilities.  Right now it has a PCI interface, which works fine.  However, I fear that a future design will require PCIe to talk to a future processor.  I don't need PCIe for the speed -- just for the connectivity.  So I keep a close watch on development boards with PCIe.  With luck, a cheap development board with PCIe will arrive at the same time as a cheap FPGA with PCIe.

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