Did autodesk fold in on Eagle?

On 3/02/2020 10:09 am, shabaz wrote:

Hi Warren,

 

Thanks for the link.

I explored KiCAD a bit today, and noticed some symbols in the library are already associated with footprints, so that's great that the mechanism exists.

Also, I explored the file formats a little bit, and they are fairly understandable (I didn't think they wouldn't be, but I wanted to get familiar with what they look like).

if I get any further I'll start a different thread (maybe called "EAGLE to KiCAD Experiments" or something) so that the information is more easy to find than on this thread we've hijacked : )

 

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It's a good idea to start a new thread but I'll add a little more here

to clarify/correct what I wrote earlier.

Here is a new link to a document titled "KiCad Library Convention"

https://kicad-pcb.org/libraries/klc/

Within it there is a section "Fully specified symbols"/

That term "Atomic part" is the term I did not get correct earlier.

Then it says "The official library requires fully specified symbols

except for a small number of libraries that contain only generic symbols."

So Kicad has transitioned to a library model similar to Eagle

I suspect a ULP should be able to convert our personal Eagle libraries

to atomic parts.

HTH

Warren

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Hi Warren,

Thanks for the link.

I explored KiCAD a bit today, and noticed some symbols in the library are already associated with footprints, so that's great that the mechanism exists.

Also, I explored the file formats a little bit, and they are fairly understandable (I didn't think they wouldn't be, but I wanted to get familiar with what they look like).

if I get any further I'll start a different thread (maybe called "EAGLE to KiCAD Experiments" or something) so that the information is more easy to find than on this thread we've hijacked : )

Am 02.02.2020 um 17:47 schrieb Gene Breniman:

Dubbie,

 

Ditto on shabaz comments.  I have been using Eagle for 15+ years now (more that 150 boards and many updates/revisions).  I has it quirks and strangeness, but it has been a useful and trusty companion.  I am currently using 7.6 standard edition (160mm x 100mm, 4 layers, permanent license), which has served be well and I have absolutely no interest in updating or switching to another package.

 

Gene

 

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Hi Dubbie,

I'm in some other forums also and there are people looking to buy

permanent licenses (even older ones). So far no one is going to  sell

his permanent license.

So if I were in your situation I would go to KICAD.

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Dubbie,

Ditto on shabaz comments.  I have been using Eagle for 15+ years now (more that 150 boards and many updates/revisions).  I has it quirks and strangeness, but it has been a useful and trusty companion.  I am currently using 7.6 standard edition (160mm x 100mm, 4 layers, permanent license), which has served be well and I have absolutely no interest in updating or switching to another package.

Gene

Hi Dubbie,

For a hobbyist if you think you won't exceed the EAGLE limits (80cm2, and 2-layer) then EAGLE is great. However, even if you only want to exceed that size occasionally, then you're stuck with paying £54 for the month you exceed that limit, with the current EAGLE version. I wrote 4 blogs on element14 last year that had PCBs that exceeded that size limit, so I would have had to spend £216 last year ($285) if I worked on each project in a different month. I get by with an older EAGLE release which is permanently licensed, but I do wish to have some more recent features now.

I have been thinking it is about time I bit the bullet and got to grips with some modern (free) PCB design package. I have used Proteus a few years ago but that is not free. I have downloaded a version of Eagle a couple of years ago now when I first retired but could not get to grips with it then. Now I want to make accustom PCB for my walking robot herd project (stripboard just isn't effective enough plus I will want several).

Having read through all these comments I now do not know whether to put that effort into Eagle or KiCAD. I'm not a professional user, or experienced, I just want something that will enable me to make relatively simple small PCBs without too much effort. Maybe I'll try out KiCAD before making a decision.

Dubbie

Am 02.02.2020 um 09:41 schrieb Rob Pearce:

On 02/02/2020 07:57, Joern Paschedag wrote:

 

I read that Fusion360 is not running on Linux. What about Mac?

 

I believe it does run on Mac. Some people claim it works on Linux under

Wine but I'm not going to go down that route.

 

 

I have a question to the fellas here: what eagle version are you

running now?

 

I have V5.12, V7.7 and V9.5.2 (and a couple of others as legacy from the

CAM processor fiasco at V8.6)

 

V7 has a standard license, which allows V5 to be used in that mode, too.

I have 5.12 too and for some verrry old Friends I can run 4.16R2 all

versions are pro.

I did not go to 7.7 because I saw not a good relation between money and

value, but what upset me was the EULA.

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On 02/02/2020 07:57, Joern Paschedag wrote:

 

I read that Fusion360 is not running on Linux. What about Mac?

I believe it does run on Mac. Some people claim it works on Linux under

Wine but I'm not going to go down that route.

 

I have a question to the fellas here: what eagle version are you running

now?

I have V5.12, V7.7 and V9.5.2 (and a couple of others as legacy from the

CAM processor fiasco at V8.6)

V7 has a standard license, which allows V5 to be used in that mode, too.

Am 01.02.2020 um 19:26 schrieb Sean Miller:

I moved off KiCAD to Eagle once it integrated with Autodesk Fusion 360.  It makes for an even quicker build.  I never have a PCB that doesn't need an enclosure.  So, there approach eliminates a lot of measuring and rework for me.  It very much streamlines the design workflow.

 

As far as I can tell, its still free for students, hobbyists, and educators.

 

-Sean

 

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That doesn't work for me. I need a pro version that doesn't stick on

internet. And I don't want a rental license.

I run eagle on windows but if win runs out of support I shall not

upgrade to win 10.

I shall go with Linux then and my eagle-6.6 will still run on

I have tried KICAD but.... well read the former posts and import of

eagle files is not so flawless as pointed out by some people.

I read that Fusion360 is not running on Linux. What about Mac?

I have a question to the fellas here: what eagle version are you running

now?

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On 1/02/2020 11:17 pm, shabaz wrote:

I have not seen that so far, but maybe I've missed it and it is there.

I found this article which appears explain what I was referring to.

Footprints and symbols can be linked.  Looks as if it has some focus in V5

https://forum.kicad.info/t/how-can-i-assign-a-footprint-to-a-symbol/8901

HTH

Warren

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